NEWS/RUMORS/DISCUSSION Thread

1. That's because the last owner spent no money on the draft or Int'l market. The Dodgers now have one of the top Farms in the league with the #1 LHP prospect and #5 RHP prospect. Rebuilding the farm takes years, not months.
2. This goes back to the previous statement, the team didn't have anyone from within to go to. Also why they overhauled the FO, Molly Knight touches on this in her book how there was fighting between White, Colletti and co... This year they integrated multiple prospects from within and that isn't changing anytime soon unless all the prospects fall flat on their faces.
3. They have laid out a plan from the minute Kasten took over; immediately turn team into contender with money now and build the farm in the process, transition to a lesser payroll and start utilizing home grown talent.
4. What? They kicked out guys that were problems in the clubhouse, not firey leaders. I've never heard of Kemp and Ramirez as leaders with spirit.

 

Go look through the thread, I've liked multiple other posts. I've always said I don't like the way VRP sometimes responds to people like they are idiots and so beneath him.

I actually liked the progression of the thread, in particular the way you responded to him without being emotional something I have not always been capable of doing.

 

Just my two cents, I don't think it's the right time to trade Puig. I'd offer Brett and Howie the QO, if Brett accepts, fine, he's the five starter until one of Ryu or BMac get back, if not, you get two picks because we know Howie isn't accepting.

Friedman had Zobrist and undoubtedly loves him because who doesn't? I'd see the price it'd cost to sign Howie and Zobrist and go from there. If Zobrist is cheaper as he should be, I'd take him, plan for him and plan for him at 2nd.

Two guys I'm curious about are Ethier and Turner. Both probably had career years (or the best years they'll ever have again) so I wonder if they get moved. I'm not sure I can say what I'd do because I don't know what'd be offered. You also have to find out what Alex Wood is, if his velocity is still declining you need to get a 3rd starter, if not I'm ok with starting the year with Kershaw/Greinke/Wood/Ryu/Brett and if Ryu and McCarthy don't look the same by July 1st making a move near the deadline for another arm.

 

I want Turner to stick around. Long Beach guy and we keep saying he will regress but he really doesn't.

 

I also like him because he plays all out and with passion. We need more guys like that in Dodger Blue.

 

And he's a ginger. Diversity is important

 

You don't like the way I speak to people but "love" a thread where someone is more disrespectful than I've ever been to any human I've ever encountered? Cool man.

 

A thread is just that, the whole thread. If I only liked the original post I would've said I loved that post, and for that matter "liked" it.

Again, I described in the reply to Doyer what I like about thread, the whole series of posts, so go read that again if you like.

 

That is why we have @LASports96 here on DSP. Diversity is very important.

 

Lf- Stanton
CF- Joc
RF- Heyward
2B- Kendrick
Ss- Peraza
1B- Turner
C- Grandal
3B- Seager

I know. Making certain bats less valuable moving them off certain positions. But hey, it's the offseason and I can do whatever I want!

I like shipping out Puig and Gonzalez. For some reason it just seems right. Even if it's wrong haha.

Heyward only costs money. Find a way to get Stanton too!!!

 

I'll repost this since I knew I was putting it in the wrong thread

I think we are going to see more of a move to the youth;
1. SS, 3B and CF are absolute locks
2. RF, Puig should be back, a lot of people are pissed at him, but trading him now would be the dumbest thing the organization could possibly do. His stock is very low now, it's not like Kemp where his contract could become an albatross if they don't trade him. He should stay and he better get his fucking act together for next season.
3. 1B, AGon is probably back, he can be so good... and so bad. He's getting older and his contract is not up for 3 more years. I don't think they can, nor will move him unless something comes along that is just perfect for them. Bellinger had a great year, but is a year or two away and not many are sold on just how productive he will be. If we get anyone, please Votto, I would die a happy man.
4. 2B, I'd almost prefer to go Turner to 2B after Howie turns down the QO. Turner at 2b, Peraza at SS and Seager at 3B, but that isn't gonna happen. I'm guessing that it is Peraza's position to lose unless the same thing as 1B, someone just too good to pass up comes along.
5. C, Get healthy Grandal and god help us if he needs the same shoulder surgery as Hanley, Kemp and Adrian did... We are gonna be over the cap anyway, bring back Ellis. Barnes could use another year in AAA.
6. LF, Ethier and Crawford need to go. Selling highish on Ethier, but it's time. Team needs someone that can add a bit more power and doesn't have a history of shitting himself come the postseason. Crawford? I'm done, just eat his contract and send him on his way. He's just eating up a spot on the 40 man. Could go with the platoon of SVS & Schebler. Doubt they look at FA, but out there is Cespedes, Upton, Gordon, Rasmus, Parra and Heyward.
7. Bench, Keep building that thing up, SVS, Schebler, Kike and Ellis should all be good for the bench. Guerrero is probably gone.
8. Rotation, Kershaw, Wood and Ryu are all their with DeLeon and Urias knocking on the door. Guess they try to extend Greinke, if he walks, they go after a trade partner or someone else like Price or Cueto. Hard to see them spending a ton of money here when they have 4 guys under contract long term at SP.
9. Bullpen, did a great job down the stretch with Hatcher and Kenley. Yimi needs to be a 1 inning guy only and both Howell and Avilan are solid pieces. Baez may have hurt his standing so team could look to add another piece via trade.
Coaching Staff, Mattingly is gone. Under performing team down the stretch and he never seemed to be the leader this team needs going forward. Game 1 is on him and he tried to stay with Crawford too long and that hurt. Besides that he actually didn't do terribly outside of that. The teams lack of fire was evident and they need a new voice. With the team getting younger moving forward, would LOVE Dave Martinez going forward!
It sucks that the season is over, but with the way the team limped down the stretch (literally and figuratively), I think many of us kind of saw this coming.

 

I was thinking that Turner could be a sell high candidate for the team. I love him, but the truth is, is he going to continue to be this legit middle of the order bat? or is his knee problem only going to cause him to be more and more of a role player? This FO is all about maximizing profits and he could be a Gordon type deal where the Dodgers get back 3-4 really good prospects for him. Not sure I'd be thrilled, but there is legit concern about his knee issues.

 

I doubt we get 3-4 prospects for him, but if it's even 2 very good prospects, I'd ship him out in a heartbeat.

 

Ok, Let Kendrick and Anderson walk (with QO's).

- Sign Zobrist (2B)
- Trade Ethier (eat half of the $38M owed)
- I am all about trading Puig at this point, just don't know whats a good fit, and then they would have to go sign a RH impact bat.
- Sign Greinke or Price
- Sign Maeda (Japan) , Leake, Gallardo, Kazmir or Anderson (if he takes the QO) someone to fill out the middle or back of the rotation.

 

Zobrist is 35 in May, He'll be looking for his last big contract. I'd pass. I like the Tyson Ross idea, so I'd try to deal Wood and something else for Ross.

 

I'm 50/50 here because you're right in that his value isn't at it's highest right now, but at the same time we have to ask ourselves if his value will ever improve from this point? Time may not heal these wounds. He's probably gonna have a new coaching staff to deal with if he stays with us, so more people pulling at him and perhaps back to square 1 with his stance and technique. Could go either way with him.

I feel like that pretty little contract of his could help out in terms of value. If they can find just the right unique situation maybe they can get a nice return? I look at Atlanta because his relationship with Olivera and the growth he could have with Olivera's support + Atlanta's moving into a new ballpark after 2016 and could use a potential jolt to get fickle ATL fans in seats. But I do think a Loria would have to be interested in Puig...the return there would be interesting, especially if it's fire-sale time again in Miami. Imagine DBB hired to manage the Marlins and Loria brings in Puig..I'd Lmao4life, brah. No escape for DBB.

I can roll with that. He's played more 2B over the last 2yrs than any other spot. And then you just go with Corey at SS and Turner at 3B with Kike or perhaps Barnes helping Turner every 4th day.

You think LAD and SD could hook up for Ross like BG is pondering? Basically, is Preller OK with gettin raped again?

 

Honest question,
Why does so many of you want to trade Puig? and if you do,
Why do you think they will get a huge return for this player that you think is busted, just not good enough or a problem in the clubhouse? A bunch of other teams will have these same conclusions. The only way a team tries to get Puig now is because his value is down and they are hoping to buy low. There is almost nothing wrong with bringing him in for another year to see if he can put it all together. If he is not some world beater, that is fine, he's not paid like one, but let's just say he is healthy, plays about his career average .294/.371/.487 with 23 HR, 75 RBI, 140 K's with great D and 4 WAR, he's still a fantastic complimentary piece in RF. At this point they aren't getting back that value in a trade since he wasn't healthy this year. It makes NO sense moving him. Even if he has another "down year" next year, his value will still be relatively the same for his upside. He is a year away from a 5 WAR season at age 23. You do not trade that after one season because you're mad at him for getting hurt.

 

Agree. We keep saying he'll regress. We also said he wasn't an everyday player. And the whole time he keeps hitting .300 and playing all over the infield. It's not a small sample size at this point, and you have to say he's just underrated. Justin Turner is the exact kind of player you try to hold onto.