NEWS/RUMORS Thread

The order of 1-6 is bad. Those are the top 6, just not even close to in that order. And him saying Desmond could exceed 200 million and Heyward could sign the largest contract in baseball history is flat out delusional.

 

Not even sure Upton would make my top ten

 

This guy has been dropping the bad acid left over from Woodstock, man...is he fucking kidding? Jason Heywood? More Heywood Jablowmi.
Oh yeah...I assure he is....

 

As far as Heyward goes, he qualified his thoughts there with a pretty big " if ", but if Heyward does rediscover his power like he said..Heyward's still only 25, so we might be talking an 8yr deal worth around 190-200M at that point. He's already proven that he's capable of hitting 1-5 in the order, get on base, and play all 3 positions in the OF very well + everybody loves his make up. However, I don't see him hitting 25+ HR, so I'm thinking 165-175M over 8yrs.

6yrs/140M is where I see Desmond. He'll be 30.

The order of the free agents 1-6 looks OK though. Price is the power lefty from the AL, so he should be valued there.

 

With Heyward, He'll be what 26 at time of FA? It wouldn't rule out a 10 year deal but he shouldn't see near 25 mil per year. I mean, we are talking about a guy who has never hit above .277. The .350 OBP is good, but it isn't superstar caliber, and 200 million dollar contracts should be reserved for the Trout's, the Kershaw's, the Stanton's, McCutchen, etc. A player his caliber is comparable to Alex Gordon and the only thing he has on him is age. If I am ranking those FA's it would be:
1. Price
1. Cueto
1. Zimmermann
4. Upton
5. Heyward
6. Desmond
and the gap between those hitters and pitchers is pretty significant.

 

Im not a big fan of Upton's either. Rather have Heyward on my team.

 

He's a better hitter than Gordon. Ellsbury got 150M..Heyward's market starts there.

 

He is not a better hitter than Gordon.

 

Yes he is

 

look it up, because I have. averages and OBP are similar, Gordon has the edge on HR's, XBH, runs scored, oWAR, and RBI's. Gordon is the better hitter.

 

Gordon strikes out more than twice as much as he walks..that's the biggest differece between the two. Other than that they're back and forth and pretty similar.

Basically, one guy can hit anywhere in the order and the other cannot.

 

Gordon has hit numerous places in the lineup over his career. He's lead off, hit third, cleanup, and as low as sixth. the power#'s and RBI's really aren't close.

 

Not a bad list. Some value everyday players more than pitching, some dont. The order of the pitchers is correct, as is the order of the everydayers..even though I'm not a big Upton fan.

 

Again, the biggest difference is that Gordon strikes out more than twice as much as he walks. The HRs are back and forth and RBIs are of course more indicative of their place in the order and one following a pitcher a lot of the time. Career OPS+ numbers are similar with Heyward ahead. Meh..I suppose you can call him a Gordon level player, so long as you know he's getting 160M+ ( barring disaster ).

 

Doesn't matter much when the OBP and BA are similar. Why does it matter how they get out? He can get that much, but he won't be worth it.

 

Striking out at that rate has long mattered. Its baseball. There is such a thing as being a guy who can make contact, help his team by moving runners over, and put the ball in play to put pressure on the defense. The latter is even more important in this new era where power is down. Its still a team sport and game plans such as the one the Giants used against Strasburg exist.

Its OK that Heyward may not be worth 160M. Ellsbury's not, etc. However, if he can regain the 25+HR pop that he showed a couple years ago he'll be worth that and likely earn himself another 20-25M.

 

Damn and pitchers and catchers are just about to start and Kenley goes down.
http://m.mlb.com/news/article/10956...kenley-jansen-has-foot-surgery-out-8-12-weeks
Dodgers closer Kenley Jansen will miss the start of the regular season after undergoing surgery to remove a growth from a bone in his left foot. According to the club, Jansen's recovery time is estimated to be eight to 12 weeks.

An announcement from the Dodgers' public relations department said "Jansen will be on crutches for about 10 days and then in a boot for 3-4 weeks" following Tuesday's surgery.

Jansen first reported discomfort in his foot while running last week. He underwent a series of tests, which revealed the growth. The subsequent surgery was performed under the direction of Dr. Neal ElAttrache.

In 68 appearances last season, Jansen posted a 2.76 ERA with a 1.13 WHIP. He recorded 44 saves in 49 opportunities.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/
The Dodgers have announced that standout closer Kenley Jansen has undergone foot surgery that comes with an eight- to 12-week timeline for recovery. Via Jon Weisman of Dodger Thoughts, the Dodgers’ PR team released the following statement:

“This morning at Cedars-Sinai in Los Angeles, Dodger pitcher Kenley Jansen underwent surgery to remove a growth from a bone in his left foot. This was discovered when Kenley reported discomfort while running last week. A subsequent X-Ray, MRI and CT scan showed the problem in the 5th metatarsal of his left foot. The surgery was performed by Drs. Earl Brien and David Thordarson under the direction of Dr. Neal ElAttrache.

Jansen will be on crutches for about 10 days and then a boot for 3-4 weeks. How he progresses during the rehab process will determine his return to competition, but it is expected to be approximately 8-12 weeks.”

An eight-week recovery would mean that Jansen is ready to go come April 14, whereas a 12-week recovery would keep him shelved through May 12. While the Dodgers possess a deep roster that many consider to be among the most talented in the game, the loss of Jansen for upwards of six weeks of the regular season would be a significant blow, particularly considering the fact that the bullpen is considered to be an area of weakness.

Joel Peralta, Paco Rodriguez, J.P. Howell and Brandon League all seem like locks to open the year in the Dodger ‘pen, while other candidates include Chris Hatcher, Pedro Baez and Juan Nicasio. The Dodgers have also brought in David Huff, Sergio Santos, Erik Bedard and, most recently, David Aardsma as non-roster invitees to Spring Training. Among that group, Santos and Aardsma do have closing experience, though neither seems likely to go from minor league signee to primary ninth-inning option for manager Don Mattingly.

The news of Jansen’s injury makes yesterday’s report that the Dodgers are seeking to add another bullpen arm more logical. Among the free agent options for president of baseball operations Andrew Friedman, GM Farhan Zaidi and VP Josh Byrnes to choose from areFrancisco Rodriguez, Rafael Soriano, Joba Chamberlain and Phil Coke. Jonathan Papelbon is also, of course, available on the trade market and was quite effective closing games for the Phillies last winter. For what it’s worth, Friedman should be plenty familiar with Soriano, as Soriano spent the 2010 season — arguably the best of his career — with the Rays.

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Disaster. Reminiscent of the Kershaw disaster from last year.

 

woah, that must've been scary. Good news is that there is still some quality closers out ther. I think we gotta move on Soriano/Rodriguez now.

 

Wouldn't touch KRod. No homo