NEWS/RUMORS Thread

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=25592

 

Hahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! from 14th to 3rd. Incredible. And the nerds just kept adding more and more depth this off-season. Gotta love it. Now add Moncada and claim the #1 spot.

 

...and the beat goes on...

 

Not for anything, but a bone spur or growth or WTF it is, isn't something that pops up overnight, and becomes aggravating or painful...I'm pretty sure this anomaly was a while in the making. So couldn't , or wouldn't it seem prudent to have this operated on well before this present time? Also, I remember Jensen being out for a couple of games at least for a "foot ailment" in the past (or maybe I'm "misremembering, like Brian Williams and Hillary Clinton). But what was that shit then?
This is something that can't be avaoided, having things like this come up...it's life. But as a professional athlete, where millions of dollars are spent, the timing is pure Ned Colletti. For chrissakes...
Just reeks of Schmidt and Jones level ineptness from the medical staff being aware.
The more things change, the more they stay the same....

 

Like he intentionally wants to miss 12 weeks... He obviously just noticed discomfort in it apparently last week. No conspiracy theory here.

 

Who said it was a conspiracy?
I wrote ineptness on the LAD part on some level. It's not like we haven't dealt with BS medical shit before.
So, if it isn't it isn't...just seems to me something like this doesn't pop up in a week, that's all.

 

Amazing jump. Lol at "mid-rotation arms such as Zach Lee." That seems too optimistic.

 

Thank you...and to answer your query: yes, we are cursed goddamit.

 

The sabre-metric set has long disagreed with you, according to several writers, a strike out is just an out. For the record, I agree with you, putting the ball in play counts for something...at least it forces action. But the sabre argument is that a strike out actually has the potential to be the least costly of outs, as it can't result in a double play (unless the runner takes off, or gets caught napping.) I have long supported the theory that putting the ball in play (even a bunt) is more desirable but I've been told many times I'm wrong, old-fashioned, and stubborn. Case in point is Adam Dunn who K's somewhere around .320+ (too lazy to look it up right now, but it's pretty close) but gets a pass because of his power numbers. But back in the day many power hitters K'd around 10% of the time and hit for high average. Anyway, modern theory is K's don't really matter.

 

A couple of thoughts triggered by BZ and Irish. Where does Kenley live in the off season? He might reside out of the country and out of the reach of our medical staff. Most of these guys have off season homes elsewhere and international players just that. Some players get in shape and or stay in shape year round. Others oh well more cheeseburgers in and less calories out in the off season. Kenley has never impressed me as a workout monster sort. Irish, inline with our conversation in another forum. This injury is just like investing and having crap happen as you know it will. That's why I find most prognostications laughable as they don't factor the unexpected and can't because it is that. One of the goals of the new management in the off season was to boost the depth and near major league ready talent in the farm system. As with all teams expect the success of that to be tested. Injuries will happen and are overall roster construction will be put to the challenge. If Greece and the Ukraine make an investor panic they need to buy CD's if injuries make fans panic then they ought not gloat until the season is over. Are we jinxed heck no, lets just hope new management is better prepared for crap happening. They are trying to be the only question is will it be in time for the inevitable poop hitting fan events. This is the first one and probably not the last.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenley_Jansen#Personal
Jansen lives with his parents in Curaçao during the offseason, and they live with him in Los Angeles when they visit him during the season.[2] Jansen has a daughter who was born on March 16 2013, Natalia Hannah Jansen.[18]

 

Of course the modern theory also has holes from the team aspect of the game. Double plays are situational..as you probably know, plenty of other situations require a bat on the ball in the least. For example; the Dodgers ranked 18th in the league last year when it came to getting runners home from 3B with less than 2 outs..a big enough portion of that failure was the whiff. A ball squared up and sent up the middle, gloved or not, scores a man from 3B. Then of course there's the hit and run team aspect as well as just simply moving a runner to 3B to put pressure on the pitcher/catcher to keep everything in front of them. How many times do we see wild pitches decide close games? How many times do we see the man at 3B dictate the pitch selection? And of course players who do a lot of their damage with infield hits needs not K. Not the 1st time that I've disagreed with one of their theories..won't be the last either.

 

To be fair, I should also mention that not every sabermetrician believes wholeheartedly in that theory. Bill James himself lauded Hanley for being a guy who puts the ball in play.

 

I don't mind the sabermetrics I just don't like the fact that they think that these theories are the be all end all. I'm sorry but making contact more times than not is better than stranding guys without putting the ball in play.

 

Amen... but there are so-o-0 many that do consider it just that, and won't have it any other way.