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If the Dodgers could acquire one player at the deadline, who would you prefer?

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  1. spanky006

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    UGH.....this hurts. Just this week I have been able to actually start talking about our beloved dodgers. I got say, this one hurt more than the Celts beating the Lakers in 08.

    That being said, here is my take.

    We need Otani.......do whatever it takes to sign him. Super up hill battle because of international spending limits. However im pretty sure Otani was close to signing with the Dodgers out of Highschool, thats a plus. Also the dodgers have a good history with Asian pitchers. Start season with a SP line up of Kershaw/Otani/Hill/Wood with Ryu/Alvarez/Behuler/Urias fighting it out for the 5th slot.

    Screw Darvish, save the cash for Stanton.

    We need Stanton. You put Stanton in the middle of Turner/Taylor/Bellinger/Seager/Puig and that is THE MOST feared lineup in MLB hands down. Im fine giving up one of Urias or Behuler or Alvarez/Pederson/Kendall/Lux. I think the size of the contract will keep the price lower than expected. I know everyone wants Verdugo in the line up....wait one year. MGT picked up the option on Forsythe. In 2019 they will need to fill 2B.....which should be Taylor. 2018 OF - Taylor/Stanton/Puig. 2019 OF - Verdugo/Stanton/Puig.

    The bullie will be fine....resign Morrow. Return a healthy Yimi and Dayton. Maeda ends up in the bullie despite what MGT says. One has to believe that two of Avilan/Baez/Fields/Kazmir/Liberatore/McCarthy/Stewart/Striping can regain form or transition to relief, especially if Honey returns. Maybe MGT goes after Holland if he does not take the ROX qualifying offer.
     
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    Young guys breaking down at the end of a long season as they move up is not anything new. Pretty common and Verdugo had a longer season than anyone else on the roster as he was in the WBC and was still playing everyday to stay hot until the season ended. Would guess that this is a good building block for the kid going forward. There are never guarantees, but his offensive upside is pretty on par with Cain's past 4 seasons and his defensive value going forward is stronger than Cain's solely for Verdugo's ++ arm. Cain is a good player no doubt, but he is a guy that has built a career on speed, defense and average pop, the defense is already starting to deteriorate, so that should be a bit worrying in regards to where he will go from here. If they are going to spend money on an OF'er, would much rather that guy be J.D. Martinez who may be cheaper than people think.
     
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    lol at other teams being wary of us
    if anything, they should be upset with their own scouting/development personnel
    hilarious
     
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    • Police have confirmed that ex-Major League pitcher Roy Halladay, 40, died in a plane crash on Tuesday afternoon in the Gulf of Mexico. Halladay spent parts of 16 seasons in the majors with the Blue Jays (12 years) and Phillies (four). He was 203-105 with a 3.38 ERA, 1.18 WHIP and 2,117 strikeouts in 2,749 1/3 innings. The eight-time All-Star won the Cy Young in both leagues, taking it in 2003 for the Blue Jays and 2010 for the Phillies. He also threw a no-hitter in his first career postseason start in Game 1 of the 2010 NLDS vs. the Reds. He also threw the 20th perfect game in regular season history. After having retired following the 2013 season, Halladay will first be on the ballot for the 2019 Hall of Fame class. We made the case that he should make it upon his retirement. More importantly, however, was Halladay the human being. He was nominated for the Roberto Clemente Award several times thanks to his work with underprivileged children. He and his wife, Brandy, had two children of their own as well.
     
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    Just read this on MLBTR:

    Brian - Are the Giants going to get Stanton?

    Steve Adams - I don't put much stock, at all, into the rumors linking them. The Giants have multiple needs around the roster and little room to address them while staying under the luxury tax. Their farm system is also weak. There are probably 10 other teams that make more sense for Stanton than the Giants. Their constant inclusion in rumors just seems more like the Marlins trying to leverage the media to pressure the Dodgers than an actually plausible scenario.

    RIP Halladay..... :(
     
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    Yeah, I know that, but I've never been overly impressed with where Verdugo stands physically, so I'm just not counting on him being ready for the long haul next year either. Plus, of course Cain has done it. That said, again, they'll go with Verdugo and gamble there. Good chance he makes the club out of Spring Training.
     
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    That sounds like his own opinion and I'm sure he said "Maybe,....." or "HA, I'd bet that....." or words to that effect. Don't forget, there are always several other teams calling and asking about everyone's players all the time and not every team has an entire staff of GM's to vet every proposal down the last cKunt hair like we do. :)

    I'm sure Friedman would love reading about that one though, since it would feed into his self importance. ;)
     
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    I'm curious what you mean by this? When scouts talk about Verdugo's stature it is usually in regards to how well built he is and that he looks more like a linebacker than a baseball player(much like talk about Puig). That is not a knock on a guy as long as he is not a pitcher and it has had no ill effects on his arm strength.
     
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    the media is going with the most plausible scenarios based on what the nerds have said and done
    all you "let's get stanton" guys are doing the complete opposite -- ignoring the facts/data
    from day one the nerds have preached...

    1. they would be focused on continuing to build the farm system and improve from within.
    2. they would be looking to cut payroll and get below the luxury tax threshold

    this is why the stanton talk is so ridiculous...
    acquiring him would not only decimate the farm system, but his $26.8MM/year guaranteed for the next 11 years would put them well over the luxury tax and eliminate the possibility of acquiring anyone else for the next decade+
     
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    I've never seen a 205lbs linebacker
    Puig is like 240 and Verdugo is 200-205
     
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    They generally don't update the height/weight on those things until they get to the bigs, and even then it is spotty. They had Urias as 5'10" 160lbs until he finally got the call which was about an Altuve off by that point. Also, yes at 6' and you are at 210 lbs, you very well can look like you are "built like a linebacker". It is something that was regularly talked about by the crews during the Mexico games, btw. It doesn't mean he has to be the size of Ray Lewis, it is a term to describe someone who is well built specifically in the upper body.
     
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    Even if you give Verdugo another 5 lbs and put him at 210...thats still not a linebacker, so lets just move away from that. There is a vast difference between Puig and Verdugo. There are only a handful of guys in all of baseball that can be compared to Puig physically..maybe not even that many. I don't think Verdugo is gonna be a bust or anything..just tempering my expectations for next season and how he finishes. It's about time he finish a season strong for once. I know that's your guy, but that's what time it is.
     
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    Makes sense. Giancarlo has probably already told them he wants to be a Dodger
     
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    curtis...
    how do i put this?
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    Friedman unsure he’ll ever get over Game 7 loss
    by Matthew Moreno | Dodger Blue — 27 minutes ago
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    Less than one week removed from a heartbreaking Game 7 loss to the Houston Astros in the World Series, Los Angeles Dodgers president of baseball operations Andrew Friedman and general manager Farhan Zaidi spoke with media at Dodger Stadium.

    The press conference marked the close to the 2017 season, and served as a primer of sorts for free agency, next week’s General Managers meetings, and the upcoming Winter Meetings. While Friedman and Zaidi have plenty to accomplish prior to the 2018 season, the World Series wasn’t far from their minds.

    “I’m not sure I’ll ever really get over it,” Friedman said of the Game 7 loss. “It is daunting for about 24 hours after the end of the season to think about how to get back to where you were 12 hours earlier.

    “But I think it’s also what motivates us. We’re all extremely competitive, and it’s about figuring out how to get back to that point and finishing it off.”

    Under Friedman and Zaidi’s direction, the Dodgers have won three consecutive National League West titles, which came on the heels of also being crowned division champions in 2013 and 2014. The Dodgers’ berth in the World Series was a first for the franchise since 1988.

    “Obviously, there was a real feeling of disappointment coming that close. But I also think the more time we have to reflect on it, we feel it’s something to build on,” Zaidi said.

    “Just like last year was something to build on, having gone to the CS and played in the environment in Wrigley Field, I think that prepared us. I think it’s one of the reasons we were able to go a little further this year. I think as we look back on this year, we’ve been there, we know what it’s like, and we’ll be even more prepared next time.”

    Like they’ve done in previous years, Friedman and Zaidi each voiced confidence in the club being equipped to compete for a World Series championship. Nonetheless, Zaidi reiterated the Dodgers will remain “opportunistic” in potentially improving the roster this winter.

    “We’re making the usual, outgoing calls to other offices and GMs to make those connections and set up more talks for next week,” he said.
     
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    I could totally see him being a cheap option for the Giants and their LF issues. That would be the worst defensive OF on record and putting it in AT&T Park would only make for more fun, so I hope it happens.
     
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    One thing that will be interesting to watch this off season is how the FO addresses the bullpen. Each of the last two years they have tried to pair Kenley with another big arm for the pen (Chapman, Holland and Britton). The Wellington Castillo opt out in Baltimore could mean that they are in need of a stop-gap catcher until Sisco is ready. I wonder if they will look to circle around and try to get Britton again and maybe offer Grandal back in return. If they could do that AND bring back Morrow, the bullpen should be a force again next season. The way the Orioles handle Britton should be an interesting story this winter.
     
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    i think they want to bring morrow back
    but if other suitors are willing to go 3 years...
    curious to see what yimi has left
     
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    Probably not 100% true that acquiring Stanton would keep us from future acquisitions.

    The big issue is the surtaxes that will hit teams that have a payroll of between $215MM and $235MM which is 12%. Above $235 the surtax is 42%. So I think MGT is probably "ok" paying the 12% surtax but the 42% surtax is what they are probably going to stay away from. The other factor is the loss of draft pick for teams that are $40MM over the 2018 lux tax of $197MM - $237MM. So as long as the team stays below $235, they can spend. (here is the USA today article: https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...ees-cut-projected-luxury-tax-bills/100833934/).

    Now i have not seen anything official so I gota piece this stuff together.....so I might be off on my numbers. Please feel free to correct me.

    I believe the Dodgers ended the year with a payroll of $229 according to Forbes (https://www.forbes.com/sites/kurtba...odgers-vs-astros-by-the-numbers/#7cb5c5452d48)

    Now subtract Ethier's $15MM (17.5-2.5), Crawfords $21.8MM, and Guerreros $7.5MM. That is $44MM that we can subtract from $229MM which equals $185MM. If they add Stanton that is a +$25MM. Now the Payroll is at $210MM. Here is where it gets tricky.....there are about $34MM in Arb and 0-3yr 25man roster salary increases. That puts the salary at $244MM over the $235MM limit. So yes there is some finances that need to be finagled but not impossible to find a way to cut $10MM if it means signing Stanton. True 2018 will be very tight dollar wise but in 2019 that money frees up a bit with base Luxury tax going up to $206MM and guys like Gonzo ($22.3MM), Kazmir ($17.6MM), and Arruebarruena ($6.5MM) coming off the books for a total of $46.4MM.

    EDIT - https://www.rosterresource.com/mlb-los-angeles-dodgers-info/

    Not sure which is correct, but according to this website the dodgers start next year at $207MM which includes Arb guys. If you add Stantons $25MM that puts the salary at $232MM.
     
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    I'm sure he has a few more hanging sliders left in his arsenal.

    Not a fan.
     
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