MLB NEWS/RUMORS Thread

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If the Dodgers could acquire one player at the deadline, who would you prefer?

  1. Machado

    43.5%
  2. Front line starter (degrom, thor, et al)

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  1. VRP

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    The Giants rotation as of now is Blach, Cueto, Stratton and Holland lmaoooo
     
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    Gene married Yeoman Rand...it's good to be the creator king...
     
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    D'Backs have optioned Yasmany Tomas to AAA. He has 3 yrs and $42.5M remaining on his contract. Out there idea, wonder if the Dodgers would reach out about a potential Kemp for Tomas swap since they're owed almost identical amounts of money, only the Dodgers would be able to give themselves an extra $10M to work with this year.
     
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    Joc makes it over Toles. sucks
     
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    Doubt they’d help us out but good idea
     
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    Lol Newly released fat boy Bartolo Colon is pretty much right up SFG's alley



    Yeah I don't see the win for AZ
     
  7. irish

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    age notwithstanding
    almost have to wonder if kemp isn’t the better bargain
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    The absence of Turner and Kemp being in the middle of our lineup is disgusting.
     
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    Gotta raise jocs value.
    Toles is the future though.
    Soon.
     
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    i was thinking after the WS it was as high as it gets
    think it has a chance of only going lower tbh
     
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    I have to disagree, can't expect anyone to give up anything of value because of 20 PAs (8 of which resulted in Ks). Were he coming off the 2016 season, sure, but he had a pretty underwhelming 2017.
     
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    He has to build on the WS.
    Show he can sustain it for at least a quarter to a third of a season.
    At least at the pace he had when he was a starter a few years ago.
    Joc might be happy just being one of the guys.
    Fat and happy is the real thing.
    Its a good thing.
    But you need to be lean and mean first before you can live happy and fat.
     
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    buster olney/espn...
    • I’d bet the family farm that... the Dodgers’ interest in the star free agents next fall will take on a very different form than anticipated. There has been a broad, social media assumption that because the Dodgers slashed their payroll and got under the luxury-tax threshold, they are preparing to wage financial war for players such as Bryce Harper and Manny Machado. But what Andrew Friedman has demonstrated since taking over the Dodgers is that he remains wary of risk -- passing on the chance to add to his offer to Zack Greinke after Greinke got a $200 million-plus offer from the Diamondbacks, or making a big push to trade for Giancarlo Stanton. Machado and Harper will both hit the market at young ages, mitigating the risk of a long-term deal, but if they focus on deals of 10-12 years in length, that could affect the Dodgers’ level of interest. There has been talk among executives that it might make more sense for a team -- and even a player -- to push for a higher annual salary on a shorter-term deal. That’s the sort of philosophy that might be a better fit for the Dodgers, who haven’t doled out a contract of more than four years in Friedman’s tenure running baseball operations. Additionally, the Dodgers have one big-ticket item already on the horizon, with Clayton Kershaw contractually eligible to opt out of his deal in the fall.
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    You're probably right in that regard. However, as bad as he was in 2017, he actually wasn't too far off from being an average ML'er. Of course, LAD expects more than average, but it's not as if he had a negative WAR. Maybe a 3rd consecutive strong OCT would get the ball rolling to some degree in regards to his value. Would obviously still be short on sample size there, but we've seen it before over the years, guys who find another gear in the fall and become difference makers and valued additions. Not to say that sort of *value* would mean much to more than a select few teams that make the post season every year, but those teams could have at least some level of interest if the need is there. Maybe not enough for LAD to part with him, though, because of course, LAD is one of those teams.

    He's basically turned into LAD's version of Ryan Klesko the last couple post seasons against the Nats and Astros. Overall sample size, though, it's still been a successful start to his career - a good ways above average OPS-wise and 62HRs in 3 years. But then another year down is less team control, so there's that. Down to 2 years of control after this season, so it could be now or never. However, an older Souza got moved this off-season with 3 years of control left, so maybe somebody comes for Joc if he gets off to the right kind of start? We shall see.
     
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    A take from Joc's profile @ fangraphs https://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=11899&position=OF

    Profile: It's a bit jarring as a non-Dodgers guy to hear people perpetually disenfranchised about a 25-year-old outfielder who is a career .222/.345/.435 hitter in over 400 MLB games, but here we are with Pederson, who has a career wRC of 115 and is a decent fielder out there. It's hard to see it as unequivocally the right move, but a change of scenery might make the most sense for Pederson, who can't seem to live up to his billing. Those expectations aren't getting any easier with guys like Austin Barnes, Chris Taylor and of course, Cody Bellinger doing what they do in their first significant runs with the team. We'll see how it pans out – a trade is weird because the Dodgers don't really NEED anything – but if he's on the move, he might be even more interesting. As is, it's worth wondering how many games he'll get into. (Brandon Warne)

    The Quick Opinion: He turns 26 in April and is still long on talent, but it feels like a change of scenery is needed. Without it, he's probably a luxurious part-time player on a team stacked with talent – which helps nobody fantasy-wise.
     
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    Unless Utley starts reading motocross magazines alone in a corner surling into his chewing tobacco there will probably be none of these types of problems.
    Matt Kemp and other young black/cuban players might have their ethnic flair that causes old school guys to shake their heads... but at the end of the day these guys are your teammates. And you gotta circle the wagons and be a team. Not hold yourself up and create a division in your own clubhouse by talking shit. It may not be racism but that is what it will be called when you think you are better than, baseball holier than though or purer than. Deep down these feelings come from a similar dark place.
    Matt Kemp might have gone off the deep with the primadonna hollywood stuff. But he is your teammate, he is your family and you rally around that guy to help bring his head back down from the clouds. A veteran demanding to be respected because he is in mis thirties and playing a game is even sillier than a young rockstar player having his rising stardom go to his head.
    Yes, I am talking about the Kent/Greinke respect my authoritah types.
    Kemp is a feel good story. As much as I want to see Toles succeed and the Verdugos and the likes come up... the fans seem to be embracing Kemp.
    If he can pay off on those hopes then all will be forgiven and he can put a good spit shine on his career as a Dodger.
     
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