Ok. But I concur that the DBacks & Pads have lain down to Frisco and I'm not alone here in that thinking. It may well be schoolyard but it is in the schoolyard that baseball became America's pastime - and now it is NOT America's pastime anymore. I did not say you said Frisco this or that. Like me, you blame LA. In this we share kinship. Still, you dismiss schoolyard and I embrace it. Why in hell are 50 & 60 year old men following the same team for 30, 40, or 50 years - intellectual stimulation? Sabermetrics? Bill James allegiance? Scientific empiricism? I'm still playing 3B in La Palma Little League in 1977, BZoo. I'm still trying to hit one over that fence into the drainage ditch by the fire station off the rich kid who called me fat ass at tryouts. And when I beat his ass that day and rounded 3B ... fucking SCHOOLYARD was what I felt. Fuck Todd the twat and his rich realtor dad at Tarbell. Fuck the LPLL Indians and their sponsors, McDonald's. Long live the LPLL Braves, and our sponsor, Carmichael Contactors. And fuck the Pads and Snakes for rolling over to the Frisco sodomites (by my count) six times this year. That's a conservative estimate. Schoolyard forever, until the heavens fall.