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  1. Finski

    Finski DSP Legend

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    In case anyone cares ... this shit is NOT fake news ...

    https://www.ocregister.com/2021/11/...ootball-player-with-brain-injury-broken-nose/

    Fuck MD. As a Servite grad & former teacher, I'm proud this type of shit ended WHEN I attended the school. I helped stop a hazing ritual there back in 1982. But nothing was ever this egregious.

    In all my life, I've known some real shitheels, but few bigger than Rollinson.

    I hope this ends with his shameful retirement and arrest.
     
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    rube DSP Legend Staff Member Administrator

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    football is a sport played all over the world
    not american football
    that is sports entertainment
    shouldn't be something offered to kids in school in order to belong
    who am i kidding, we haven't evolved a bit past the warrior clans of old
    the young cub before becoming a jaguar knight must first pass the ritual rights in order to receive his degree
    that was for the mexica since america has the same panther in different colors from tip to top
    now its american football
    just like every other story of america and of every other america from the past its no longer what it was once
    like how it used to be baseball
    a game where violence is directed at the ball not at the opponent except when its the exception
    where the ritual is a light load and not heavy beating
    its like in that funny commercial i keep seeing pop up lately for that bbc show where the funny guy asks something like 'are we the baddies' when he starts to wake up that the empire is an old man whose hair color is quickly fading
    and old men with white hair become the villains of young men with black hair
    that is and has always been the black and white issue
    old white haired men vs young black haired men protecting their young black haired women from being taken en masse to work/serve the old white men in their homes and businesses in whichever way they and their corrupting money please
    its never been about race
    other than the race to the first natural resource
    the well of sweet water in the garden of delights
    in the middle of mother earths eden paradise
    besides they say that the darker the grass the sweeter the hits
     
  3. Finski

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    I participated in team sports (football and baseball) through my senior year in college. Never participated in or heard of any type of hazing rituals, unless you consider popping someone's naked ass with a towel as hazing (no homo, of course). Only hazing I heard about involved frats, which I didn't give a fuck about anyway. Frat rats (as we called them) were a bunch of pretty boy snobs.

    I don't get the mentality of those participating and I really don't get an authority figure like the head coach turning a blind eye to this shit. Head coach should get the Paterno treatment.

    PS to Finski......our godson started at St. Anthony's this year. Any thoughts?
     
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    Yeah. Frats are for mental midgets.

    I support St Anthony's like I do any Catholic school with integrity. My concerns there now is in their capital campaign. They took a BUNCH of $$$ from alumni and curremt parents a few years back and then failed to upgrade their campus as promised. That lost them a bunch of ongoing donors.

    Now, my former boss at Servite for the last 15 years - dismissed for a variety of reasons, none criminal - took the president's position at Anthony's.

    I'd worry if that guy was running my LLC. He's not a bad guy - just a lunkhead.
     
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    Follow up ...

    Just called a LB guy whose kid goes there too. He tells me Brennan coaxed the retired former LB Poly head man to helm the football team. Now, they are playing in the CIF Division 10 championship.

    Brennan will get the credit perhaps... but I'm still dubious. Don't wish him ill but I know him too well to be starry eyed.
     
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    Mater Dei vs Servite tonight at 7PM SoCal time at the thoroughly inappropriate location of Veterans Stadium. Max capacity of 10K - all of it on ONE SIDE of the field.

    Link to the game

    CIF is a joke. MD is 'rallying behind a great man' by having hundreds of former players and current students & players praying the Rosary in front of Mary's statue, including the biggest douche of all, Matt Leinart.

    Meanwhile, Rollinson will keep his job, the kid who beat the fuck out of smaller kid - the aggressor is Black & the beaten kid is White, btw - will start tonight, and nobody gives a shit at league office about it. Let's flip those colors and imagine how this story would be instead.

    Yeah. I know. You know it too.

    And MD is almost certain to beat Servite easily tonight.

    But it doesn't matter. MD is the better team but they have zero integrity. But CIF needs them to be the high school version of the 27 Yankees.

    This is just one more reason why I left California.
     
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    Game is on one of the Bally (formerly Fox) Sports Network channels tonight. Might have to give a peek.
     
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    Yes. That's the link I provided in that post.
     
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    Watch for T-Mac [Oregon] & Houston Thomas [no commitment yet], Mason Graham [Michigan], & Noah Fifita & Keyan Burnett [Arizona] ... that crew is pretty amazing.
     
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    guessing the pending ass rape charges were right up there as well
     
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    I’m pulling for the catholic’s. LOL!!
     
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    Oh ... it WAS ass rape. Nothing pending about it.

    But really... aren't we all a little guilty of it most weeknights?
     
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    That'd be Servite. Mater Dei is Catholic like the Kennedys are. CINA ...
     
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    Pulling out for the Catholics?
     
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    I don’t pull out for anyone. Homo?
     
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    I know it's Plaschke, but you know what they say about a broken clock......

    BY BILL PLASCHKECOLUMNIST
    NOV. 28, 2021 6 AM PT


    Plastered across one wall of the Mater Dei High School football locker room are the words, “Pride Poise Courage.”

    What is happening underneath that sign is shameful, brutal, and cowardly.

    Two players preparing to fight. The bigger player is 235 pounds. He is smiling. The smaller player is 175 pounds. He is frowning.

    The smaller player clearly doesn’t want to be here, but he doesn’t have a choice. He is new to the nationally renowned Monarch football team and must prove himself. The smaller player must engage the bigger player in a hazing drill called, “Bodies,” in which two players pound each other in the torso until one of them drops.

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    Their combat from Feb. 4 was captured in two chilling videos viewed by The Los Angeles Times, the disturbing images being the centerpiece of a lawsuit filed by the smaller player’s family last week against Mater Dei and the Roman Catholic Diocese of Orange.

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    Lawsuit: Ex-Mater Dei football player alleges hazing led to brain injury

    Nov. 24, 2021

    “Ready…three, two, one…go!” shouts a voice, and they begin to brawl.

    It is Mater Dei’s version of “Fight Club,” only this is not a fair fight.


    The smaller player, shirtless and wearing a cross around his neck, lunges and misses and slips. The bigger player starts charging and pounding.

    About halfway into the nearly minute-long fight, the bigger player throws the smaller player to the ground. The smaller player bounces back up, and so the bigger player moves in to finish him.

    The bigger player hits the smaller player with a right to the face in a blow so hard you can hear it. Smack! Then he hits him with a left to the face. Smack!

    The smaller player stops fighting and is standing still, holding his head as blood spills out from around his eyes and…Smack!...the bigger player lands one more frightening right to the head. A sucker punch.

    “Chill, chill, chill,” shouts a voice.

    “All right, it’s over,” shouts another voice.

    “Oh my goodness,” shouts a third voice.

    The smaller player faces his tormentor with blood on his face and a sway in his gait. The unwritten rules of the hazing exercise had been broken, punches had been thrown above the shoulder, and the smaller player can’t understand.

    In addition to gashes over both eyes, he would eventually be diagnosed with a traumatic brain injury and a broken nose that required surgery.

    “What the f— are you doing?” the smaller player shouts to the bigger player. “This was Bodies!”

    It is indeed a ritual so common with rules so understood, among the handful of players in the locker room during the fight, two of them are idly looking down at their phones, and others are sitting quietly. What is happening in the middle of the room is the sort of untethered violence that would bring a boxing crowd to its stomping feet, yet until that final sucker punch there was no noise, no reaction, and certainly nobody trying to break it up.

    This isn’t some schoolyard showdown after classes in the back of a darkened playground. This is a sanctioned fight in the middle of a school facility in the middle of the day in a room adjacent to the office of longtime football coach Bruce Rollinson.

    According to the lawsuit, which refers to the smaller player as Player One, this is the culture of Mater Dei football.

    Watching the videos, it is difficult not to agree. They span only 55 seconds, but it feels like an eternity. They are shocking in their raw reality. They are disturbing in their feral images and sickening sounds. They are painful to watch, difficult to stomach, the hardest of hard evidence.

    Reading the supporting material in the lawsuit along with the documented facts of the incident, it is difficult to understand how Rollinson and longtime Principal Frances Clare still have their jobs.

    Player One was not only beat up, but he suffered through an obvious attempt at a cover-up that makes Mater Dei football look like some second-rate gang of bullies.

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    Nov. 26, 2021

    “Mater Dei has a culture of winning at all costs, and a culture of cover-up at all costs,” said Michael Reck, one of the attorneys for Player One. “They’re treating their kids like commodities.”

    Player One was initially told by teammates not to “snitch,” but when the school’s officials figured out what had happened, they apparently didn’t want to openly acknowledge the reason for the injuries, and his parents weren’t called for 90 minutes.

    When his father finally spoke to Rollinson the next day, the coach dismissed the incident as child’s play, saying, “If I had 100 dollars every time these kids played, ‘Bodies’ or ‘Slappies,’ I’d be a millionaire.”

    Rollinson also is accused of telling Player One’s father that he couldn’t discipline Player Two because his father was an influential local youth football coach who had worked with several players at Mater Dei.

    But the school did administer punishment. In a move as outrageous as any sucker punch, the school actually suspended Player One for fighting, a suspension that was eventually rescinded.

    Meanwhile, Player One’s father’s efforts to meet with Clare were stonewalled.

    “To this day, Principal Clare has never addressed the concerns raised by the Plaintiff’s parents, instead opting to be evasive and deflective,” according to the complaint.

    The family of Player One was also told by Mater Dei officials that there was no video of the fight, which proved to be untrue and represented another attempt at a cover-up.

    Mater Dei also initially refused to cooperate with a local police investigation into the fight, and, according to the Southern California News Group, did not meet with the Santa Ana Police Department until nearly three months after the incident. Even then, it did not admit any knowledge of the fight and, despite what he had initially told the father of Player One, Rollinson told police that he had, ‘No knowledge of Bodies, or any form of hazing.’”

    While the Santa Ana police department recommended filing felony battery charges against Player Two, according to the Southern California News Group, the Orange County District Attorney’s office chose not to file charges because it deemed the fight as mutual combat.

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    Mater Dei players pose for photos after defeating Servite in the CIF Southern Section Division 1 championship game Friday.
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    Player One transferred shortly after the fight but, as a final insult, Mater Dei placed a disciplinary restriction on his file so he could not play sports at his new school. The situation was eventually resolved, but the message was clear.

    You do not mess with Mater Dei football.

    When you acknowledge that you are a victim of Monarch hazing, the hazing is only beginning.

    The program’s inability to protect its players is reprehensible, but even worse is its apparent refusal to take accountability when a player’s safety is compromised.

    “They didn’t do the right thing even after the fact,” said Brian L. Williams, another attorney for the plaintiff. “They circled the wagons and they protected the brand.”

    The school’s motto is Honor, Glory and Love, but when it comes to the football team, it’s apparently Glory, Glory and Glory. Those eight CIF titles and four national titles in Rollinson’s 33 years apparently don’t come cheap.

    Player One and his family are alleging negligence, violation of California’s hazing penal code, failure to properly protect the player and infliction of emotional distress. They are seeking damages to be determined during a trial along with medical expenses, legal costs, interest and any other relief the court deems proper.

    But there is a bigger picture here.

    You must wonder, over the past three decades, how many other Mater Dei athletes have been injured in sanctioned locker-room fights, yet never reported it because they didn’t want to “snitch?”

    You also must wonder, if Rollinson ignores such dangerous activities just steps from his office, what else does he ignore? What other hazing activities are taking place? In the wake of the lawsuit, this newspaper has already received different kinds of Mater Dei hazing videos. How many more are out there?

    Finally, you have to ask, if the school will go to such great lengths to hide one locker room fight between two anonymous kids, what else are they covering up? What other rules are they breaking?

    Read it: Hazing lawsuit filed against Mater Dei High School

    Nov. 23, 2021



    These are questions for the Diocese of Orange, which should immediately order an independent investigation into an institution that so famously represents 1.6 million Catholics in 57 parishes and centers. The Catholic church doesn’t have a great history of looking inward, granted, but this stain just became very public and is only going to grow.

    Rollinson needs to be held accountable for the hazing, a tradition which generally will get a coach fired. Clare needs to held accountable for the cover-up, which, as usual, is just as bad as the incident.

    Mater Dei has said little since the lawsuit was filed.

    “We’re not commenting on the story because they are minors and there’s pending litigation,” said Allison Bergeron, Mater Dei’s executive direction of communications.

    Father Walter E. Jenkins, Mater Dei’s president, wrote an open letter to the Mater Dei community asking for, “Faith and trust as we navigate the process ahead.”

    Right now, it’s tough to have either faith or trust in an institution that has strayed so far from its intended mission.

    Perhaps the most compelling Mater Dei comment came from Rollinson himself when asked, as the Monarchs defeated Servite Friday night, to put the recent lawsuit-driven storm clouds into perspective.

    “I just won a CIF championship,” he said. “It doesn’t get any better than that.”

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    Plashke is a clown, but again, as you say, stopped clocks are right twice a day.

    I have been saying stuff like this about Rollinson and Mater Dei for 30 years, and because for 15 of those I took a paycheck from Servite, I got a lot of eye rolls and a lot of, "well ..? you would say that because..."

    I have about a dozen people I'd like to call up now and tell them to go fuck their mothers, because over the span of years, they have eyerolled me and they have told me that my opinion was compromised and they flat-out told me that I was wrong.

    Welp. Fuck them all eternally.

    ... I'm actually in a good mood because Thanksgiving weekend has me all blissed out. Plus, my wife made me promise I wouldn't go after some of these guys with a phone call or an email. So I wont. I'm bothering you guys with it because you're one of the few groups I trust anymore, and because I got to put the vitriol someplace.

    Anyway... I'll just add this last part. I believe the school and a coach will get away with this one... Again.

    If you do your homework, you will find that Mater Dei has had seven coaches and a principal heavily accused & found guilty of sexual relationships with same or opposite gender students, including Fr Harris, their former principal, who over 25 years ago molested several dozen of the students on that campus.

    It's just that bad there, and if you don't already know that, the two Heisman Trophy winners who came from that school and the machine of wealth and power that come out of that school have made it possible for you to not know that.

    It's just that fucked up.
     
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    not to worry
    rest assured there's a special place in hell reserved for him...
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