DODGERS The MATTINGLY Thread

Discussion in 'Los Angeles DODGERS' started by SC_Ed, Oct 14, 2013.

  1. darth550

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    Dunno, but I do remember being rather surprised it wasn't DBB doing it that day.
     
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  3. SC_Ed

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    I don't see LaRussa coming back to manage. The dude just turned 69, he's been retired 2 years now my guess is he's done.

    Forget about Leyland too, or Charlie Manuel, Bobby Cox or any other senior citizen that's burned out.
     
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  4. CapnTreee

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    DBB made lots of mistakes... I don't think that we really have so much to debate.

    As a friend said years ago "don't cut down the tree until you've figured out what replaces it." That applies mightily in this case. No senior citizen with a 50.5% is going to fly in and save the day. All of the Sr. candidates mentioned thus far bring precious little to the party that DBB doesn't already provide... with the rare exception of Scioscia... and grubby Arte has him locked up for the rest of the decade.

    IMO introducing ANY new manager will cause 'some' sort of disturbance within the team. So give DBB some slack, maybe get him a stats tactician and then let the team heal. At this point it appears we're about to lose Wallach which won't be a good thing anyways... losing DBB could go way wrong and that's not going to help us at all.

    GG is uber rich... so just give DBB a contract extension so he feels loved and then move on to other priorities.
     
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    Torre did that every year. Nomar did it too. Has nothing to do with Don as much as you'd like that Darth-TMZ, it's a Torre tradition. How could any of you not know that? LOL
     
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    Wallach can't manage 3B. Why do people think he can do anything better?
     
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    Hell yeah!
     
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    boston dusts off valentine, trades off the contracts and makes the show. live and learn.
     
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    BINGO! exactly my point...

    I'm not sure if Wallach would be any better than DBB, but sure DBB needs a wiser voice next to him. Maybe replacing Hillman for a more seasoned manager that can help DBB on the in game calling...
     
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    Everyone needs sage advice....even established "master minds" like Leyland.
    But, like happened a few days ago, they still make head scratching, wide eyed moves that many question. Sure DBB did dopey things....and "rookie manager, dum-dum, and country bumpkin" were just a few of the names called him (myself well involved too). But before we replace or don't replace him, who exactly out there for stepping into this guy's shoes?
    He said it himself, if he doesn't come up with a winner, then he should take the heat and deal with the consequences.
    But in the last 25 years, we've had a lot of different guys at the helm, and some of them have had success before and after the Dodgers. I think that might indicate that the main problem is something else about us...but we seem not to want to make the manager/ GM changes that IMO, need to be.
    Assuming we are at full Kempstrength next season, and it's not another horrible injury laden start again, we should be back at least where we were this year. Actually, I wonder a little if that huge omellette CK served up last week will effect him at all? I keep thinking about Timmy...
    Maybe give Wallach a shot, keep Donnie somewhere close to possibly be rehired, or go commando and try someone totally off the wall.
    There's ex Dodger people around, and maybe a proven track record isn't the answer. We've done that before (remember JoTo?), and failed. And had good pitching and position players. But not quite good enough, evidently....
    Where's Yeager anyway?
     
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    Magic could do it? no?

    Got to know the replacement before you get rid of him. There isn't anyone that good out there. Right now, even if we wanted to resign him I don't think he wants to come back. He's butt hurt. Right now its up in the air really.

    off topic
    Why didn't we beam someone for HanRam last game? We could have sent them a message. Then one of their players would be hurt for the world series the little bitches.
     
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    You mean something like an iPad with a baseball manager app?
     
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    I know he did it every year. I just remember thinking it was kinda funny how he let him do it, not DBB...
     
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    to me, mattingly is like a piece of shit car -- unreliable, fucks up at the worst times, and you can't wait to unload it/him and get a better one. unfortunately, you need it/him to get around

    i don't hide my disdain for donnie
    to me, he is a terrible on-field general
    he makes poor, impulsive decisions -- and, like tb said, doesn't seem to learn from his mistakes
    how many times did he not have mark ellis sacrifice and then subsequently hit into double plays?
    and then, with a speedy runner already in scoring position, he asks a slugger -- someone not familiar with bunting -- to sacrifice
    and to those who say uribe homering did not save his bacon... let's say we lose that game and then game 5 -- are we even having this conversation about donnie coming back?

    imo, donnie should thank his lucky stars that they're even considering asking him back
    i mean, it's not like other teams are banging down our doors to see if he's available
    in most cases, getting to the lcs would be viewed as a huge success and oftentimes guarantees the leader a shot at manager of the year
    but this was no success and mattingly isn't even the best manager in the dugout
    to me the team got as far as they did in spite of him, not because of him
    all that said, if there's no better replacement out there... :shrug:

    i do like nz's suggestion of ausmus, but i'm not sure this is the ideal situation for him/us
    still, i'd take him over dbb at this point
    as for kevin kennedy... sorry tb. he's good at what he does but, imo, not a good managerial prospect at this point in (his and our) time

    :2cents:

    p.s. totally agree w/diablo on dbb's body language
    get the fuck over yourself you fucken petulant child
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    Yeah, but they also finished with 93 losses last year; not 2 wins away from the World Series with half of your core injured.
     
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    I'm surprised things are going down like this. It really does seem to be about Donnie not happy with a one year contract.

    See Dylan H.'s LAT article: http://www.latimes.com/sports/baseball/mlb/dodgers/la-sp-1022-dodgers-mattingly-20131022,0,3808970.story#axzz2iT7PlwLE

    It would be something if Donald left to manage the Mariners, or some such team. Ha! Hello, cellar! Job security with a bunch of bottom feeders! Congrats!

    My only fear is that Ned has Dusty sleeping on his living room sofa right now.
     
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    or worse...
    :giants:
     
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    KK was my choice before Joe Torre. IDK, during these many years, he's become slick sports network guy and probably beyond managing now.
     
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