DODGERS The ROBERTS Thread

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What is your opinion of Dave Roberts?

  1. he’s the best

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  2. he’s a’ight

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  3. he sucks

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  1. irish

    irish DSP Staff Member Administrator

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    or mattingly
     
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    Bill Russell got fucked
     
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    lastatman DSP Legend Staff Member Moderator

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    Old Melonhead Bruce Bochy got ejected yesterday. I'll always simultaneously hate and respect him for leading three high 80/low 90-win Giant teams to championships. Maybe there's envy that Texas signed him instead of us and he promptly won another. Anyhow, my point of saying he was tossed was to further conclude that right or wrong on the play (he was wrong), I believe he argued and was thrown out so that his player wasn't.

    Does Roberts have any fire? When was the last time he got ejected? Does he have his players' backs on the field? Would he throw an obscenity at an ump to take one for the team? Is there any real passion for his job, for his players, for his legacy? Or does the extent of his involvement stop with patting CT on the ass after another strikeout and then using the media afterwards to say that Taylor needs to do better?

    My hatred for Roberts grows every day. It's really not a healthy dynamic. But I hate to see this golden opportunity going to waste. The Dodgers spent a lot of money this off-season, but they failed to upgrade at the most important position, and I fear that in the end that will prove once again to be the limiting factor.
     
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    irish DSP Staff Member Administrator

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    great post
    i was thinking about his weakness as a manager (for about the 1000th time) the other day
    and it was in regards to taylor
    he doesn’t seem to realize that his rah-rah, pat em on the butt, go get-em next time bullshit might not work on everyone
    the pages call-up was a great opportunity to sit taylor down and maybe, for the first time, let him know his job may be on the line
    maybe that slap to the face/wake-up call is what ct3 needs/needed
    light a fire under his ass and piss him off
    maybe it would have helped, maybe it wouldn’t have
    but we’ll never know
    imo managers need to be chameleons
    they need to coddle some guys and get in other guy’s faces
    they need to figure out what that best motivates each guy and use it accordingly
    lasorda was great at it
    roberts is an unimaginative, one-dimensional idiot
    given the same talent over the past eight+ seasons, do you think tommy, bochy or alston would have been limited to just one short-seasoned championship?
    covid got the dodgers a title, not roberts
    the guy was in over his head when the dodgers hired him, and he’s wasted the immense talent he’s been handed
    he thinks being everybody’s friend is a good thing but, without the fire/passion/anger he’s near worthless imo
     
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    The guy is such an assclown. If he were white he would have been fired years ago.
     
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    If he were White, he'd never have been hired to begin with.
     
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    what a jackass

    Fabian Ardaya@FabianArdaya
    “We’re in it,” Dodgers manager Dave Roberts said. “And you just gotta keep going. No one is gonna feel sorry for you. You have to play the game the right way and expect things to turn. I definitely didn’t foresee this.”
    7:02 PM · Apr 20, 2024 · 25.1K Views
     
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    I wish he'd walk down a train tunnel and profess similar ignorance as he saw a light getting bigger as he went along... eejit
     
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    latest words of wisdom…

    "When you're not hitting, it certainly seems lifeless, seems like we're running cold. I know it's not from care or preparation. Bottom line, it's about results and we're not getting them right now. They outplayed us this series and won three. Some guys might be pressing a little bit. Every time I write the lineup, I feel good that we're going to put up some runs. It's not a big picture-type thing. It's certainly been two weeks where it hasn't been good."​

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    This is just the beginning...
     
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    My non-negativity quest ends right here, four days short of my goal. There are simply zero positives to focus on right now and this is just too much to not say nothing.

    First, I've been a fan long enough to know that teams are not as good as they seem during hot streaks and not as bad as they look during slumps. This too shall pass, and they'll get back to winning more games than they lose.

    But they are clearly not winning any titles this year. I'd put money on that, no matter the odds. Ohtani, Yamamoto, Glasnow, and Teoscar are not saving the team. In fact, if the Dodgers had also acquired Harper, Judge and Acuna (ignore the injury), they'd still fall short. Why? Because Roberts is the manager, and as long as that's the case, this team will never play with any urgency. He just doesn't have the skills to get the most from his team.

    You know when this really hit me? Not by getting swept by the pathetic Reds, even though that's really bad. It was the previous series. Because the DBacks embarrassed the Dodgers last October in the NLDS (especially taking both games in Dodger Stadium), we ABSOLUTELY HAD TO make a statement in this, their first series back in LA. We NEEDED to dominate all three games. It was IMPERATIVE that the Dodgers showed Arizona (and really, the rest of the league) that last year was not going to be forgotten, and the team was out for vengeance this season. Did that happen? No, the team sleepwalked through the series and got bitch-slapped by the DBacks again... ON OUR HOME TURF! By Marte and Walker and the remainder a bunch of no names. Without a doubt this is on Roberts. There is nothing in his persona that fires up his players. Hugs and butt pats and we'll-get-them-next-times have the opposite effect. They signal to the team that mediocrity is acceptable. Players have resigned to just showing up so that they can collect their paychecks. Not saying there's no one in the group giving his all, but collectively as a team they are not, and again, that's on Roberts. And that's not changing as long as he's manager. We need to accept that.
     
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    Here's the bottom line: If Roberts was to be fired by the Dodgers, would any other team sign him? While anything is possible, I don't see it happening. Teams would see past his regular season record, attributing it to the roster talent. More so, they'd know that he has failed miserably time after time to lead stacked teams through the postseason.

    Why doesn't our front office see this?
     
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    Because this team & this market are guided primarily by curb appeal qnd not architectural integrity...

    To be metaphorical... so long as Dodger Stadium has wifi & assloads of modern accoutrement, who cares if the San Andreas fault below it is ready to swallow it whole any day now?
     
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    While I would not put Roberts even close to a top level manager to again blame him for teams failures in the play offs the last three seasons is just as crazy as giving him high praise for winning in the shortened season. The change of playoffs has totally changed the landscape of base ball where you used to have to only play 1 play off season to reach the World Series. I also love how you say been handed all these all star hall of famers who then totally fail to produce in play offs then blame the manager. And saying it’s the managers job to get the players motivated to play in the play offs what a joke
     
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    Fair enough, you and I view it differently and I can respect that. Hope you stick around.
     
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    ok and like lastat i can agree to disagree, but...
    when do you try something different or have players prepared to do something besides swing for the fence?
    it seems to me like the team is generally bereft of any type of game plan offensively
    then it comes down to managing a pitching staff and there are more than a few questionable decisions that he's made over the years
    just seems like he has righty/lefty tunnelvision and that gets exposed in the playoffs big time
    winners don't wait for it to come to them they make things happen and the next innovative move i see him make will be the first
    again, in the spirit of conversation on the subject
     
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    Unfortunately, it's the world we live in today. Players make too much to blame them, right? In Roberts I see a manager that keeps doing the same things and getting the same results. In the real world, he would have been fired years ago. Many more more future HOF players do the Dodgers need until the braintrust see's it's him?
     
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