DSP The RUBE Movies/TV Thread

Discussion in 'Los Angeles DODGERS' started by LAdiablo, Nov 27, 2018.

  1. F!nski

    F!nski DSP Regular

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    Allow me a small tangent here ...

    I recall that Deadwood took flak when it first came out ... besides the graphic sexual content, all the 'emmeffer/cawksucka' usage had people doubting that Victorian era western folk spoke that way. Later, David Milch unearthed court records from the 1880s where - yes, indeed - hundreds of cases involving men using that exact language in public were brought up on public indecency charges and served time for it. The whole Bullock & Swearengen dynamic was also more about Shakespeare than actual events, but now, Deadwood is regarded highly for its writing, sets, and theatrical performances. Milch is a master storyteller & linguist. That makes his content richer than most out there.

    I mention this because Taylor Sheridan has become the Milch of the now. He has a work etic that breaks most people. Like Tarantino, he outlasts most people because he doesn't fear the effort it takes to get up daily and write, write, write. While David Milch was a Yale guy of high academic standing who was tortured by his gambling and alcohol addictions but grounded in classical literature and history (so he wrote those fixations into NYPD Blue, Deadwood, Brooklyn South, Luck, etc) ... Taylor Sheridan is a non-college guy; he was less interested in plot via history as he was getting work as an actor. He COULDN'T get any work, so he said, "screw it" ... and he started writing scripts that he could cast himself in.

    Like Milch's Deadwood characters, his say "'emmeffer/cawksucka'" as well, but for different reasons. No one doubts that people speak that way now, as many doubted that 19th Century westerners spoke (again, they were wrong because they actually did) Sheridan doesn't care about iambic pentameter - he cares about gritty 21st century versions of western tropes that have been spun backwards by the Coen Brothers & Cormac McCarthy.

    What's my point? If only I had one ... welp, Sheridan is rock solid and I love his work, but I won't re-watch his stuff like I do Milch's. Sheridan is intelligent and gutsy on the surface, but as season 3 of TMoK shows, he has run out of ideas and it is just "kill dudes interestingly" & say "fuck" every 11th word. That gets tiresome. It worked great in the initial scripts but with Dianne Wiest killed off and a post-snowplow Renner sleepwalking through this season, it's harder to focus now. There's no there there.

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    Been re-watching NYPD Blue. Reinforcing my view that it was (and is) the best cop show ever.
     
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    Yes it is.

    Sipowicz is veeeeeery close to me, minus the Vietnam vet backstory. It's creepy how much he is 80% my father and 20% every European immigrant dad I ever knew. Plus ... the alcoholism is dead-on ...
     
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    It was brilliant the way they allowed the Sipowicz character to evolve.
     
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    and damn fortunate it was his ass they chose for first male TV nudity.
    Just my opinion...I could be wrong.
     
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    The Sting
    Jaws
    Animal House
    Empire strikes Back
    Stop Making Sense
    Seven
    Batman (w/Jack N)
    Caddyshack
     
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    thought of a few more…

    memento
    bronx tale
    in bruges
    kiss kiss bang bang
    donnie brasco

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    Kiss Kiss Bang Bang is very underrated. Great flick.
     
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    i didn't see Caseeno but i always watch that as long as it has the language
    really we can't use THAT C word???
     
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    the lord of the rings collection
    rambo collection
    remember the titans
    forrest gump
    the wire
    game of thrones
    house of the dragon
    oz
    south park
    kill tony
     
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    Ok ... I reserved tickets in downtown Louisville to see this on Sept 13.



    Matt Walsh is gonna out-Sacha Sacha Baron Cohen ...
     
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    won't be first in line but i'll be in line for sure next week
     
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    Never watched BBT but I recognized it was funny & well-written. I just recognize that Chuck Lorre is a woke shitheel. He's a leftist twat ... but a skilled showrunner.

    So when I gave Young Sheldon a try, I wasn't surprised it was quality. It's got plenty of hate for God & conservatives baked into it, but it still nods towards family & traditional values as well. It's a good show.
     
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    i watch those degenerates on the regular
    adam ray + shane gillis put snl to shame
     

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