LAKERS LAKERS Thread

Discussion in 'Los Angeles DODGERS' started by rube, Dec 16, 2015.

  1. Fall Winslow

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    And Malik Newman already waived Smh

     
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  2. rube

    rube DSP Legend Staff Member Administrator

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    Magic is a genius.
    Warriors are the modern Showtime Lakers.
    To beat them you have to become the modern Bad Boy Pistons.
    This is the Bad Boy Lakers but with a superstar like Jordan/Kobe/Magic.
     
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    The Showtime Lakers, I feel, had more versatility than they are given credit, and the Dubs are not even in the same class.

    Yes, Showtime could run you into the ground, but they had the Captain too, and with Magic's size, he could post you up and over power most PGs at the time.

    The Pistons were crooks and madmen, but they won one only because Magic tore a hammy in game 1 and was out. Still the Lakers kept it close each game although they just couldn't pull it off. If Magic was there, we would have 3 peated.

    Dubs don't have that ability to switch from small ball to post up power ball. They don't have the skill set or pieces to do that, although with Cousins if he's healthy, we'll see. For all the praise they get, they are primarily a fast break, shooting team that is can score 3s.

    I agree that the team Magic is putting together is defensively minded to wear down a Dubs/Houston type team. We saw Houston wearing out by game 6 and 7, and the Lakers right now are built that way.

    But they are way more skilled than the old Pistons team. They have passing and defense all over the lineup. They have scorers at all positions except for PG, though we'll see if Ball has gotten his shooting straightened out. And what is intriguing are the rookies, Mo and Svi....they both can shoot and Svi has range. Hart is going to break out this year, I can feel it.

    Magic and Pelinka can sure scout the bejeezus out young talent....so far, I see really no mistakes.
     
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    rube DSP Legend Staff Member Administrator

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    Yup.

    This team looks a lot like if you took the Pistons from the Showtime era and the Pistons from the Kobe/Shaq era and added a superstar.
    None of these guys are superstars and our young guys might not have superstar potential but they have all star or solid starter on a good team potential.
    Except LeBron, he is the Isaiah Thomas of this team.
    But in the body of Rick Mahorn.
     
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    They really have. Lonzo might not quite reach the HoF level people have set for him, then again he might. I loved the Rubio comparison to him.

    Teams go through years of drafts and come up with nothing.
     
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    Lonzo is Baby Magic.
    LeBron is Bigger Badder Barkley.
    Kuzma is Bird's Ghost of his former self.
    Rondo is Black Stockton with a broken arm.
    Kobe can come back as Old Man Jordan.
    Ingram can be Scottie right before he broke out.
    Kawhi is more like
    Wagner can be Christian Laettner that doesn't suck.
     
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    It's almost to the point where you have to wonder if they value their draft picks more than most teams. Usually, the team gets better and the org stops valuing draft picks because they become late round draft picks, but damn, they're killing it later in the draft. In the end they may be better off sitting tight at the trade deadline, holding on to the draft assets, keep building Boston-like depth.

    One thing I'm afraid of with this team is that they legitmately have like 12 guys that should play night to night. 3 of them should be at or above 30 minutes per game, but after that 4-12 could just about make cases for 15-25 minutes. Reason this scares me is because Luke was horrendous at figuring out his rotations early last season. Somebody's got to help his ass this year, we can't have that shit this season. He can't be out there hoping for injuries to make his decisions easier.
     
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    LeBron had better..before you know who chimes in with a rotation of his own..

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    Speaking of..Game of Zones is going to have to give this LAL group their own spin off series. Beasley, Lance and company..joining forces with Lavar..LAL has too much fire power. Lol
     
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    Travis Wear is back, 2-way contract
    Lavar cannot escape those slow, white feet
     
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  11. CapnTreee

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    Can one get any stupider than this??

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    Forward Kevin Love was "very excited and obviously humbled" after signing a long-term extension with the Cleveland Cavaliers on Tuesday. Terms were not announced, but league sources told ESPN that the four-year, $120 million extension tops out his overall deal at five years, $145 million.

    Love, a five-time All-Star, opted out of the 2019-20 season on his current five-year deal, league sources said, and the new extension will kick in after he earns $24.1 million next season. He will get his max salary in 2019-20 ($28.9 million) and 2020-21 ($31.3 million), it will be flat for the 2021-22 season ($31.3 million) and then decreases in 2022-23 ($28.8 million).

    He took $8 million less than his full max as general manager Koby Altman worked with Love and agent Jeff Schwartz to keep some salary cap flexibility for the Cavaliers on the back end of the deal, when his maximum annual salary could've been in the $35 million range, league sources said.

    "I'd like to thank the Cleveland Cavaliers organization, [owner] Dan Gilbert and Koby Altman for having their trust in me and believing in our future," Love said during a signing ceremony at Quicken Loans Arena in Cleveland. "When I got traded here a few years back, I was committed to being here long term and I was committed to our culture, excellence in playing the game of basketball. And I think who we have on our team and who we have moving forward really reflects that."

    In the aftermath of LeBron James' departure in free agency to the Los Angeles Lakers, the Cavaliers aggressively pushed to secure Love, 29, for the long term. Gilbert and Altman have been determined to keep the Cavaliers in out of the playoff mix, and that plan included keeping Love out of free agency in 2019.
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    Dan Gilbert must hate his own money with such a boneheaded move as this.

    In my book Love was hugely instramental in Cleveland losing. HUGE. And I agree, he should be committed.

    Mostly that Love should retire. Or I guess resign with Cleveland and never see the playoffs again

    (that's the same isn't it?)


    Now how does that bode for Cleveland recruiting ANYONE???

    Shitty? Oh good. "F" Cleveland.
     
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    Gilbert is the prime example that the rich are often just lucky.
     
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    Trust me, I finally have a reason to watch Backstage Lakers this year.
     
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    idk i think hard work and showing up everyday sometimes looks like luck to a lot of people
    they say the same about rock stars
    sure theres always luck involved but how did they get in the position to get lucky?
     
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    Yes, hard work is an ingredient, but whenever I see parents working two jobs to make ends meet, where the kids also have to work to help when they can, and then when they are still on the lower end of the economic scale, and then get criticized for "not having what it takes", sometimes it is just blind luck that the rich are what they are. It sure helps if you had money to begin with....and although I will give Gilbert credit about his businesses, I do not automatically apply that to the way he runs the Cavs.

    He has money to throw around now, but that's not enough to run a franchise. Without, LeBron willing to come back to Cleveland to fulfill a promise, the Cavs would still have 0 championships.
     
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    Its like Dungeons and Dragons.
    Just with different terms.
    Some people have grace and other people do not.
    Grace you are born with and is something you cant easily fake.
    Although there used to be big money in teaching it if you could get your students to become experts at faking it.
    So you gotta roll a high grace score from birth.
    That is half the game right there and you get 3 more tries for the other half since you were born full of grace.
    Then you need to have a high wit value so you can be with it and pick things up quickly. This is a skill you need to develop a lot of trains in and put in as many skill points as possible to max out for your build style.
    As well as be of a good natured or at least open alignment so you can be ready to accept opportunities that your wits have revealed to you and your grace has bestowed upon you.
    Any of these things will make you run into some luck but two or more make you extremely lucky and a good luck charm. Someone people want to be around.

    If you don't have a natural high grace score then whatever you do do not go chaotic evil and compensate for your low grace by sacrificing your other attributes and putting all your points developing your wit and your will to outlast your enemies.
    If you are of low grace then grace yourself and be ready to fight the good fight, fuck the good wife, and die the good die.
     
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    I will tell you some truth.
    Powers higher than you and I control who can afford to live in any town or part of town in america and the world.
    All we can do is choose where we live.
    If where I live is too expensive for my ability to pay then I would move.
    I would downsize or move to a smaller town and get a job somewhere where the rent is so cheap or the tax or benefit situation so good that you come out way on top.
    You can do that here. If you move to the area near the 15 between ontario and temecula you will find lots of new jobs by big companies who are investing heavily there. I have thought of relocating over there. The job market is saturated with lower level employees. People with mostly low skills, low experience, low education, low percentage of people with a degree of any kind. If you have any of that stuff you are like a small fish in the ocean going into what used to be a little pond but is now a giant inland sea of tiny tadpoles and fish fry with the odd lamprey or other bottom feeder.
    You get there and you see your job pays a good 15% less than it did where you used to live. But your experience, skills, and high school band captain make you eligible to apply for managerial positions in your chosen field with a compensation benefit that not only bups you back that 15% but bumps it up another 25% and your own office.
    Or you can make the same money at your same old job and commute for 2 hours in the morning and 1 and a half hours in the evening whilst killing yourself and missing your family but getting caught up on all your favorite podcasts.
     
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    Or that skill in one field doesn't translate to skill in other fields.
     
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    Hard work is necessary, but not sufficient.
    Lots of people work really hard and don't have the skill or vision to do much other than just get by.

    You have to work hard, and have skill to be really successful. Luck may play a little part, but it's mostly skill/vision/talent that makes the difference.

    It's a bitter pill to swallow, but how rich you are when you're born has very little to do with it. Most rich families lose their money within three generations, and rich people are just as likely to come from lower class backgrounds as upper class ones.
     
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    the skill and the tenacity to be successful as well as capitalizing on opportunity when it presents itself
    you have to see something others don't and be prepared
    lots of people call that luck ime
     
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