LAKERS LAKERS Thread

Discussion in 'Los Angeles DODGERS' started by rube, Dec 16, 2015.

  1. rube

    rube DSP Legend Staff Member Administrator

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    being rich when you are born has little to do with what?
    luck?
    what pseudonym for luck would you like to use?
    or maybe you are going the other way where being born wealthy is bad luck because of all its trappings?
    you wouldn't work so hard and would rather take risks knowing that you have a safety net of money to catch you if you fail.
    fear is in the top 3 supervillains list.

    it is great luck to be born rich if your idea of luck the ability to try and risk and see which one goes huge vs dreaming small and working hard everyday ready for a glimmer of an opportunity to hopefully one day arise where you can rise above your workmanlike existence.
    And for the other part of the population it is the complete opposite.
    Lucky is the man, who knows what he's been given type of vibe.

    If you are not naturally lucky to kick your way through the doors that appear before you at least being rich you can come in with a rich friend or some other connection... and if that fails you can always bribe the doorman.
     
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  2. borat

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    who else gonna come to cleveland?o_O not like they have a shot for the big name guys the next few years.


    so they at least have a face for the next few years while they build through the draft.

    no problem with the move.
     
  3. Gebbeth

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    So why not commit yourself to that rebuild now. Dumping that much cash for that long isn’t going to get you started on anything. It just delays, unnecessarily, the inevitable.
     
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  4. Fall Winslow

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    Gilbert reportedly said " I get to have my team back " when questioned about LeBron's future a while back. He wants to win some games while LeBron is still around, he's heard all the negativity.." LeBron's gone, you're gonna suck again. "

    He just doesn't want to suck. Even though sucking would be the best plan long term, he has his horse for his course. Wants to prove he can build something respectable without LeBron. Whether or not Love is tradable with this new contract is debatable..it's definitely a lot of money, so I can understand if some think he can't be traded now. But then the Cavs aren't the only team on this course, so maybe some other meh franchise could come for him later? We shall see.
     
  5. Fall Winslow

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    BTW, Shaq's troll game is fading big time. He trolled Dwight into not wanting to be a pick and roll guy anymore ( not really that hard come to think of it, given Dwight's weak nature), but this shit that Shaq is on with LeBron is just downright retarded.

    So before free agency, Shaq comes out and says " LeBron doesn't have to chase rings, his legacy is set. "
    And now after LeBron joins LAL, Shaq is now saying " when I played I wanted to have more rings than Kobe, more rings than Duncan. LeBron should want more rings than Steph, more rings than Durant. "

    Shaq reminding me why I enjoyed watching him lose the war for LA VS Kobe.
     
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    TAFNAC Cossack Staff Member Administrator

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    You're arguing with something I didn't say. I think there's a term for that.

    What I did say is that where you end up doesn't have as much to do with where you started as most poeple like to attribute.

    Of course being born rich is lucky. But do you know what the real luck is? Being born with the intelligence (or looks or athleticism) that can make you rich. That's something you have that you didnt earn that makes you successful.


    ...and most of those guys lose big.
     
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    That's because I wasn't sure what you were trying to say?
    Which is why I answered in multiple arguments.
    But now you are moving to goalposts from luck to 'real luck' so I will go back to the original point that gebbeth made.
    That the rich are lucky.
    Furthermore, I disagree completely that it is just as likely for an average poor person to compete with an average rich person.
    Money generates money, the rich grow richer, the poor poorer, those with nothing generate nothing and not by a flaw in the matrix or some evil plan but by natures design.
     
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    Lol The talking heads on the tube are losing their shit over the thought of LeBron playing center
    As if LeBron is gonna have to bang with centers a ton..they haven't been watching enough basketball
    I could understand if there was a nightly post threat at the center spot, but there's only a handful of centers in the league to worry about as far as posting up goes
    Given how prevalent pick and roll is in this era, LeBron is gonna end up switching onto some other position more times than not and Hart or Zo or someone else will end up on the 5
    They're going to make playing the 5 efficiently into this great achievement for LeBron Smh
    I think more importantly, Cleveland's offense, in a small sample size, was incredible when LeBron was at the 5..like almost an 150 offensive rating as a team
     
  9. borat

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    I think sometimes we forget this is a business first league. complete rebuild and nobody shows. kevin love can be the face and it gives the illusion to the fans ownership is trying to win now. I near max guy isnt gonna hinder their rebuild. the rest of their big money deals are off the books in a few years too. so young cheap draft talent and then cap space later. I get what you're saying but it seems like a money love for the next few years and that's it
     
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    Something tells me Kevin Love is not the draw you think he is or will be.
     
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    Honestly, if I was the Cavs I would go into full "process" 76ers. Sexton has always been a fighter. He will prob be a good piece to build around.
     
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    racist
     
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  13. CapnTreee

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    ...and build around Kevin Love...


    :laff::laff::laff::laff::laff::laff:
     
  14. CapnTreee

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    Which SHOULDNT OF BEEN A WAR.

    two massive fragile egos... sigh

    what could've been. Whatever. Next!! Bring on LeBoner I guess.






    fuckin HATE to cheer for this mercenary!! Sigh.. long live capitalism... now where's my rings bkitches????
     
  15. CapnTreee

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    Yep
    It has a HUGE amount to do with it. But it still requires hard work+talent+vision to make Big $$$. You can work less but without talent+vision "it" (cost of life) eventually it catches you. I've seen rich friends go broke for lack of the first element. Sometimes extreme talent+vision can win the day but it's a fool's story that one can get away without the hard work. Doesn't happen much. At all.
    Nope we agree again. The SINGLE biggest factor in all my years? Fire in the belly. Absolutely no substitute.
    And while you're absolutely correct, being born rich doesn't hurt. Family connections matter HUGE. Bring all three of the other elements and you will still work way the "F" harder than the son of a rich man. #nature. #sowhat
    Amen. No further truth is required.

    And even one of those three will carry someone a long ways... with hard work
     
  16. rube

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    this conversation started about being lucky.
    then the goalpost moving to 'really lucky' and 'successful' and now 'Big $$$".
    just stop at lucky
    the thing about luck is that lucky people dont need it
    unlucky people chase it
    luck can shine on you once in your entire lifetime... that should be enough
    if that happens before you even have to sweat out a fart (born with it)
    most of us don't know when luck hits us in the face
    and by the responses here all anyone equates with luck is money
    what are you guys chinese?
     
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    No dude, we were talking about how you get rich.

    It's by being lucky, but not the kind of lucky most people blame on the patriarchy or rigged systems or whatever.

    It's by winning the genetic lottery.
     
  18. rube

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    Genetic lottery is luck because genetics is usually a sure predictor.
    We hear the success stories of course and there are a bunch of them but they are a few in a very large population.
    What you are talking about though is the same thing as what I was saying earlier about grace.
    You either have it or you dont, you cant buy it but you can fake it but it will cost you dearly in one of the 3 major ways.
    And you will be a lucky guy but not end up a lucky man.

    The patriarchy and rigged systems and all the whatevers are real things though. So are earthquakes. It is silly to rail against earthquakes.
    There is nothing you can do about stopping them.
    If you are lucky you won't notice the patriarchy/corruption or you wont care or will intellectually reason it out. If you are not lucky then these things are a bigger deal.
    Are you feeling lucky punk?
    Dirty Harry is lucky. He knows luck.
    He knows that if you are not lucky you better not cal upon its name.
    At your dying moment you will call to luck and luck will say "I never knew thee".
    Was this bank robber a lucky man?
    He was a bank robber, he might have been a lucky guy making lots of money as a banker taking his cut out of others peoples money.
    I mean without bank robbers there would be no need for armed guards, cameras, brinks trucks, security barriers or even large temple like buildings designed to keep out bank robbers.
    Dirty Harry knows this punk (raging fire on the outside but internally soft and easy to put out) was not a lucky man.
    He judged him not lucky but turned the other cheek to show his mercy face and allowed him to live if he testified. He put his balls on the table but was found in perjury resulting in instant death as it always does.
    You cant lie to luck in lucks face.
    Luck is not about money, that is cheap luck or fools luck.
    Like with christianity. All those fake christians that are jesus fans not jesus followers. Christian and Atheist alike know that all of these super 'lucky' preachers that get rich off of jesus fans amd people who are trying to find jesus but are first found by these charlatans promising people miracles that will change their lives. Always focused on money.
    They promise good luck.
    Like a chinese boss when he gives you some money on chinese new year for 'good ruck'. I say good rock to him too.
    You cant fake the funk.
    You can only try hard and die trying.
     
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    Yeah but there was and he lost
     
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    However, even though Shaq lost the war for LA..at least he's not Denzel Valentine.
    " How, Sway!?!? " At least he cheered Derozan up I guess

     

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