Discussion in 'Los Angeles DODGERS' started by irish, Apr 2, 2017.
Double D with the hilarious quip...
Matt Cain has announced his retirement and all I can think is how fucking nice he is being for those fucking Giants. Moore's debacle of a season, paired with this shit has essentially freed up 15.5 Million for them this offseason. I believe that by retiring, Cain has vacated his 7.5 mil buyout, but I am not 100% sure. Giants are expected to potentially shop both Joe Panik and Brandon Belt this offseason, but we shall see. There are whispers out of SF that Posey's days behind the plate are numbered. Yes he is a fantastic catcher, but he has broken down in the second half in each of the last two seasons.
I just started writing a "if I were them" scenario, but fuck I have no clue what they should do. Their farm is terrible, they are saddled with some big awful looking contracts (Cueto, Samardzija and Melancon for 61 million nxt yr and 56 Mil the following 2 seasons), bad expiring contracts (Span and Pence for 33.5 Mil), some that were deemed team friendly contracts at the time and now are ehhhhh...(Belt 4 yrs 17.2 per, Crawford 4 yrs 15.2 Mil per and Posey 4 yrs at 22.1 Mil per), a couple potentially solid arb or pre-arb role players(Arroyo 6 yrs control, Dyson 3 Arb yrs, Panik 3 Arb yrs and Smith 2 Arb yrs) and a really cheap Bumgarner for 2 more yrs. As a hater of the Giants, I love seeing what looks like some turmoil on the horizon.
The best indicator will be Bochy as he has two more years left on his contract and as we have all seen, some frustrations abound in regards to him from within the clubhouse. If he is not gone around the end of the season, then that tells me they are going for it with mostly what they got already. Not saying they want to get rid of Bochy, but I don't see him wanting to put up with any sort of a rebuild. I could see them going all in for one last season with this core by just adding a LF'er or CF'er since there will be aplenty (Cain, Granderson, Martinez, Upton[maybe], Bautista, Bruce and Cargo) and hoping to get some sort of spark from health alone. They will be an interesting team to watch and in the event we fall short of another WS, I could see us and the Giants being the two most active teams this offseason.
SFG fans had better get comfy bragging about old shit
I find it near impossible to believe that Cain is foregoing his $7.5 million buyout just so he can tell people he is retiring a week early. My guess is that the front office already agreed to buyout the contract, and his announcement is just ceremonious. By announcing it early, the Giants get to cash in one last time with extra people in the stand for Cain's last start on Saturday, and Cain gets to save face like retiring was his decision. Otherwise it makes no sense to retire, you would at least wait until you know if they are buying out the contract.
Agree with CKWG's last line there. Said the other day, that as weird as it sounds, SFG should be rooting for LAD to win the WS and stay the course. Because if LAD loses, and is out on the market looking to making sweeping changes, that'll directly effect what SFG is able to get done this off-season. LAD with far more assets.
Tigers sign 17yr old Pedro Martinez Jr.
He plays 3B
Yeah, I think if we don't win it all, you will see some serious turnover on the edges. Turner, Seager, Bellinger, Kershaw and Taylor are locks to remain, but anybody beyond that could be available.
Damn, Colletti would have been all over that like flies to shit.
The FO probably has him tied down to a chair with a gag.
I guess they could take a look at moving Barnes with what's coming through the system @ catcher, but his framing/passed ball/defensive metrics are all pretty good. I'd like to see him stay on. I'd venture to say that even Turner could be available under the right circumstances. Although, moving him would lead to a lot of sad faces in the clubhouse. 3B may be calling Seager soon..but even in saying that, JT could maybe slide over to 1B with Bellinger possibly taking CF everyday. No shortage of options. Taylor always looks pretty good at SS. I'd like to see them go for Cesar Hernandez again if it comes to it
I'm willing to guarantee that Turner is not going anywhere as he is too cheap and one of the best 3B in the game. I do agree that Seager's years should be numbered at SS as this will be his 5th season(MiLB included) in a row where he has broken down at the end of it. Seems like he just may not have the stamina for the position. Taylor's bat definitely plays at the position and he's more than qualified to handle it defensively (bone headed plays here and there aside). It is nice that each of the core 4 are capable of moving around the diamond to make circumstances work.
Bellinger in CF with 50 bomb potential, love the thought, but also hope he could stay healthy out there @ a demanding position. He's a natural in the OF, so maybe he'd have a chance to settle in. Or perhaps they go to Verdugo in CF and Belli in RF
Matt Cain retiring makes me feel old.
That pug faced fuck won't be missed
Andre Ethier's bald spot likes this.
After the whole "where is his buy out going?", that was the second thing to cross my mind. There was some moment in my young life that I remember somewhat vividly. I was road tripping out somewhere and it involved a rainy day of driving, listening to Lowry getting knocked around. From the looks of it, it was July 13-15, 2007. We beat up both Cain and then Noah Lowry in a series and I remember thinking, "Fuck yeah, with our young guys working their supposed pitchers of the future, I know we are going to run the show for years." It didn't work out the way I hoped, but remembering that I was in college at the time for that, makes me feel a lot older than I felt this morning.
SFG, officially, will not lose 100 games this season..unless JD Martinez does somethin crazy the dream is dead
Llamas and Alpacas do not appreciate this.
And Martinez homers
Uh oh, now Lamb
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