DODGERS NEWS/RUMORS Thread

I think it will be a harsh penalty and we Dodger fans are still going to come out of it incredibly pissed off.
My prediction
- Kevin Goldstein, banned from baseball for life
- AJ Hinch, banned from baseball for one season
- Jeff Luhnow, banned from baseball for no more than 3 seasons
- The Astros may not sign any Int'l prospects for more than $300K for the next 2 seasons.
- Forfeiture of multiple draft picks, including their next 1st round pick.
- A sizable fine to the franchise(more than $20M)

That will probably be it. I think Cora and potentially Beltran are gonna be next after further investigations, but those won't be handed down yet. The MLBPA will protect the players and the Astros players will say "we were only doing it cause management wanted us too!". So they will get away with it. They won't strip a title as that impacts the integrity of the game and is a kick in the nuts to us and the Yankees.

 

There have been reports MLB isn’t holding any of the players accountable, which would include Beltran

 

They have apparently been telling people that if they cooperate, the penalties would be far far less harsh. When they did that, supposedly a large amount of people were willing to talk. This is what kills some of my excitement for a total organizational smack down. Some players behind the scenes from other orgs want the names of the players that cheated, to be released so that the players can take retribution in their own hands. Bauer said this, so it is more than likely true.

 

The only reason that I included Beltran was that he was rumored to be a catalyst among the players for it and was supposedly not very helpful early in the investigation. Since he is not a player anymore, maybe they would give him some scapegoat penalty, but I would not be shocked if he didn't get any sort of penalty either.

 

I love Bauer. I don't give a damn if he rubs people wrong.

 

I remember back when we were brothers in optimism. Was a hell of a run. Sadly, it's ended. And Seager's time @ SS for LAD feels like it's going to end soon enough, as well, given how they've looked to upgrade at his spot this winter. Whether by trade or Lux's promotion, certainly feels that way.

The Reds' part in this is micro for me, but also telling. They've reportedly shown the most interest, or have at least been the most consistent in their effort to get Seager - which is a poor sign - where's everybody else's optimism for this former star that's been made available? One of the shittiest, most lost orgs in baseball are the most aggressive in pursuit? There should be more interest and from better orgs.

Well, for starters, given this FO's history, " lateral " is fairly realistic. And this whole off-season has been lateral. But then also, if they're expecting Lux to be a superstar SS, that's at least 1.5 tiers above realistic projections for Seager right now, so is it really a lateral move to get the ball rolling for superstar SS Lux? Actually, it's right up their alley in terms of looking forward - beyond this season's goal to win the WS title.

 

Cody Bellinger got 11.5 million. A record for a first time eligible player. hot damn. Seager got 7.6 mil and Kiki 5.9

 

Dodgers didn't reach deals with Taylor, Muncy, and Joc.

 

Muncy and the Dodgers are like 600k apart, 550k apart with Taylor, and about 2 mil apart with Joc. I tell ya, I don't want to believe ownership is getting cheap, but like how do you not reach agreements with 4 players?

 

Well if you are not going to sign big FAs and say stuff like fans like “homegrown” talent, and don’t even want to sign them....then what the hell? What kind of message does that send to even the homegrown talent?

Lindor is now off the market. Bauer is off. Geezus H Christ.

 

Well, remember..Muncy's not " homegrown ", so he's not appreciated as much as Seager is - let Kasten tell it.

 

They could still come to an agreement by the deadline. With how close most of these guys are, I'd expect most to come to terms. Joc is the only one I question and how much platoon players are losing value around the league, I tend to agree with the Dodgers. Having him get as little as possible could also be a benefit if they are still looking to trade him.

 

Just cause only one team has been said to be the most aggressive, does not mean they are the only one, but realistically there are also not many options to begin with. Considering the state of the league, only a hand full of teams being interested would make sense. In the AL, only the Rays are in win now mode where they would probably use Seager and they still even have an interesting option. The other competitors either have solid cheap options, long term locked up options or expensive vets with bigger holes at other positions, or in some cases just don't have great trade pieces(Angels in particular). For the NL, the Dodgers aren't trading him with any team that they would feel that he could make them a more dangerous competitor, so Nats and Braves are out. The Brewers are supposedly out of money with both the Cards and Cubs already locked in at the position. So it makes sense why the Reds would be the most aggressive for his services. Since they are one of the few teams with a hole at the position and are hoping to compete in the coming year. Still, doesn't mean they are the only team and the report also said the Dodgers have shown no interest in actually moving Seager at this time.

 

Too logical. Stop it

 

In theory, Seager would make a competitor more dangerous. But in reality we know better because we've seen it up close. His performance against good pitching, in the fall, has been absolutely pathetic.

If there were more optimism for Seager's outlook, there would be more interested teams highlighted - better orgs - because once upon a time he had that sort of ceiling. I don't believe for 1 second that AF wouldn't trade this guy to the Braves or Nats, or even in division. But the Nats are out because they want to employ guys that don't absolutely suck in the fall. The Braves..of course, they employ Anthoplous now, who worked for LAD, and more than likely knows Seager is lost. So yeah, that's out. The rest of these teams, I could go on, but the point is clear - Seager's just not really worth all the trouble.

No, what we need is a fool. And with that said, we haven't even heard a peep from Preller and the Padres on behalf of Seager because they've been busy snooping around for Lindor - and they obviously already have 2 pretty good shortstops in SD. So that's a solid indicator that at least one team is willing to make room for difference makers even when the fit isn't perfect - if the player is actually a difference maker. Which Seager is not. Padres held our Kemp grenade..they're out on Seager. " Fool me once.. "