MLB NEWS/RUMORS Thread

i remember during the piazza trade...
there was a holdup because sheffield had a no trade clause and would only waive it if we agreed to compensate him for the money he would be losing
a lot of people called him selfish, but (for probably the only time ever) i agreed with sheff
so did fox, and they paid him the difference
as for stanton, he probably be so happy to play in la that he wouldn't care...

 

But the past does not matter. It is not made of matter. It is all in our head.

 

weird
a couple months ago i was really looking forward to re-watching and enjoying all the highlights
but i just can't -- and i have no desire to
kinda like having a lot of great memories with a gf and then she breaks your heart
or, to put into huh? parlance, finding out the dude you're banging used to be a woman...

 

actually just the opposite
there is no present or future...
only the past, repeating itself over and over







Eugene O'Neill's trust is suing this post for plagiarism.

 

the worst to me is the constant mention of game 5 -- one of the most crushing defeats i've ever encountered -- possibly being the greatest ws game ever

 

no, not that pedro guerrero

Phillies hire former Dodgers bench coach Pedro Guerrero
by Daniel Starkand | Dodger Blue — 22 minutes ago

The Philadelphia Phillies announced Wednesday that they have added 28-year-old Pedro Guerrero as an assistant hitting coach on their big league team under new manager Gabe Kapler.

Guerrero spent the last two years as a bench coach for the Ogden Raptors, the rookie-level affiliate of the Los Angeles Dodgers. A former infielder, Guerrero played professionally for eight seasons from 2006-13 in the Dodgers Minor League system after being signed as an amateur free agent out of the Dominican Republic.

Kapler, who previously served a big role in the Dodgers front office as the director of player development, has expressed interest in coaching for a while now as he was a finalist for the Dodgers managerial job before they ultimately went with Dave Roberts in 2015.

Kapler became the Phillies 54th manager about a month ago, giving him his first managerial opportunity in the big leagues.

Guerrero, who is the nephew of former Major League manager Manny Acta, hit .236/.287/.351 with 23 home runs and 163 RBIs in 411 career Minor League games in the Dodgers organization.

He and Kapler aren’t the only staff members the Dodgers will have to replace this offseason. Triple-A Oklahoma City hitting coach Shawn Wooten was let go by the organization, Major League assistant hitting coach Tim Hyers left to become the hitting coach of the Boston Red Sox, and vice president of baseball operations Alex Anthopoulos became the president and GM of the Atlanta Braves.

Dodgers third base coach Chris Woodward is currently a finalist to become the new manager of the New York Yankees.

 

yeah that one too
fuck we could go on forever
so many bad moments
roberts twice pulling hill too early, while twice leaving darvish in too long

 

that is why as much as we hate saying this and feeling this and knowing this in october...
once november rolls around it starts feeling good again to say... we'll get em' next year.

 

hilarious proposals
if miami were willing to offer either we would have already jumped

Does a Giancarlo Stanton trade to the Dodgers make sense?
by Jeff Spiegel | Dodger Blue — 92 minutes ago

In a world slightly detached from reality, a trade sending Giancarlo Stanton, a Southern California native, to the Los Angeles Dodgers makes all too much sense. After all, they are the team he grew up rooting for as a child.

The Dodgers seemingly operate without a budget, and the expensive Stanton is among the game’s best and most marketable players.

But then there’s the real world. You know, the one where the Dodgers already have a slew of Major-League level outfielders, one where they’re potentially more concerned with cutting payroll than they are with adding to it, and where they frankly don’t seem all that concerned with adding Stanton.

So, what gives?

Well, for starters, it’s safe to say the Dodgers front office deserves to be called any word other than predictable. They recognize how big of a star Stanton is, and how, compared to contracts that will be handed out next offseason to the likes of Bryce Harper and Manny Machado, Stanton’s contract suddenly isn’t all that unreasonable.

Beyond the financial cost of acquiring Stanton, there’s his no trade clause. ESPN’s Buster Olney recently postulated that Stanton could easily block trades to any team not named the Dodgers.

At that point, the Dodgers would have to be interested, right? Right?

Who knows. Regardless, let’s ask the question as to what it would cost should Stanton suggest that it’s the Dodgers he’d like to play for; something which apparently has not happened yet, at least not directly.

Because this is the Miami Marlins we’re talking about, and no one has any clue whether they’re more interested in shedding every penny of Stanton’s salary or in getting something of significant value in return, here are a few different scenarios.

Option 1: Dodgers assume responsibility for Stanton’s entire contract
Dodgers receive: Giancarlo Stanton
Marlins receive: Wilmer Font, Trayce Thompson, Rob Segedin

This trade is mostly about cutting the fat off of the 40-man roster for the Dodgers considering how much guaranteed money they’d be inheriting.

Font, while coming off an unbelievably impressive 2017 season in the minors (178 strikeouts in 134.1 innings pitched), is 28 years old, is out of Minor League options, and struggled mightily in 3.2 Major League innings this season, allowing seven runs on seven hits while issuing four walks.

The second name here is obviously the most interesting in Thompson, but the general feeling is the same. If you trade for Stanton, Thompson becomes the eighth-best outfielder on the Dodgers’ 40-man roster.

He’d offer some value to the Marlins and would get the chance to compete for playing time right away. Segedin is another serviceable Major-League piece the Marlins could use and who has little use for the Dodgers at present time.

Option 2: Dodgers take on Stanton’s contract, but Marlins do the same with Adrian Gonzalez
Dodgers receive: Giancarlo Stanton
Marlins receive: Adrian Gonzalez, Will Smith, Jordan Sheffield, Trayce Thompson, Wilmer Font

Now we’re talking blockbusters. Personally, I’m not even speaking with the Marlins about Stanton trade scenarios unless the possibility of including Adrian Gonzalez is on the table.

Yes, Miami is looking to shed salary, but Gonzalez only has one year remaining on his deal. In Gonzalez, the Marlins get a veteran presence manager Don Mattingly is comfortable with and someone who might have a bit left in the tank in spot-start duty and off the bench.

The real prizes for the Marlins here are the next two names on the list, beginning with catcher Will Smith, the Dodgers’ No. 9 prospect according to Baseball America and No. 11 according to Baseball Prospectus.

Given the depth at catcher ahead of him (Austin Barnes, Kyle Farmer, Keibert Ruiz and Yasmani Grandal), Smith becomes expendable as an incentive for the Marlins to take on Gonzalez’s contract.

The second prospect here is Jordan Sheffield. He’s a hard-throwing pitcher who checks in as the organization’s No. 10 prospect, according to Baseball Prospectus. The No. 36 pick in the 2016 Draft out of Vanderbilt, Sheffield is likely headed for a career in the bullpen.

But where in the bullpen remains up in the air.

Now, as with any trade column, some will respond with, ‘The Dodgers would never trade X player!’ right alongside people others who would argue the Marlins would scoff at the exact same trade.

With that in mind, let me clarify here: these proposed trades won’t necessarily compete with offers from other clubs. It’s just not likely that the Dodgers get into a bidding war with the San Francisco Giants or St. Louis Cardinals.

Even if it means Giancarlo Stanton is moved elsewhere. That said, if the market slows or if Stanton is clear about his desire to come to Los Angeles, the leverage suddenly shifts in Andrew Friedman’s favor, and trades such as the ones outlined above do make some sense.

Another caveat to those clamoring for the Dodgers to trade for Stanton: Gonzalez is 35 years old, and prior to the 2017 season he had never been on the disabled list in his career.

By the time Stanton’s contract would end, assuming he doesn’t opt out, he’ll be 38 years old. Since 2011, Stanton has failed to play in 125 games four times, because of injuries to his groin, knee, hamstring, eye, and hand.

As far as I’m concerned, the Dodgers should be more aware of the risk involved with this type of trade than anyone else.

Then again, maybe they look at their current roster and realize someone like Stanton is the difference-maker who is needed to end the World Series drought.

 

i knew what you meant
was trying to say he'd probably want sf to match the difference if we're not interested
but like @VRP said, i don't see how the giants would pull it off or why stanton would want to go there