DODGERS 2019 MINOR LEAGUE/PROSPECTS THREAD

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  1. ColoradoKidWitGame

    ColoradoKidWitGame DSP Legend Moderator

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    Yeah... I don't know if May is worth either of them. Ruiz is expendable more thanks to Will Smith, but then again he is out with an injury which is fairly common for him. I am seeing some updated projections on May that think he is creeping into #2 territory, which is significant cause everyone likes to give #3 comps for good prospects. Fastball is sitting 95-98 late into games, touching 99 with some decent secondaries. With his size and continuing to get better and better, that is a steep price for a reliever when the farm is as deep as it is and should be able to put a deal together with pieces that aren't May, Lux or Gonsolin. Not to mention, May and Gonsolin may be legit bullpen options for the stretch run.
     
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    THINKBLUE DSP Gigolo

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    I think we will have to make a move that makes us uncomfortable at some point in order to in the WS. Especially this season.
    2017 we were so close with this play it safe approach but the bullpen is so bad that I think we just have to go for it.
    I don't pay attention to the rest of the league but the Red Sox gave up a former #1 spec in Moncada to get Sale, no?
    Don't know if that's a fair comparison with our situation but I just want to win it all.
     
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    Don't trade any of the big time prospects who will come up this year for a reliever.
    You do that for a star hitter/pitcher.

    Trade from surplus which means catchers not named Will Smith who is already up or pitchers who are already up but have not shown enough to get a full time Dodgers job.
    Or players on the major league roster blocking prospects who could come up and produce now.
    This year is perfect for trading Ruiz, Ferguson and/or Joc.

    Joc will always be a high HR low average type of player.
    The Dodgers can do better but in the meantime have plenty of players that are producing at above replacement in LF.
    I like Joc and love his power but he has been relegated to playing 1B and LF which no longer puts him in league with the CF/RF types that make more money and are allowed to produce a little less due to their defense.
    As a power hitting LF with low average he is in crowded company.

    Verdugo can replace him in LF when Pollock gets back at CF.
    Or just grab some other random white minor leaguer to replace him.
    Beaty, Garlick, those two new guys that just raked in AAA.
    Hell Edwin Rios could decide he wants to be the clone of Max Muncy.
    Or just start Freese at 1B nearly every game.

    Ferguson is not needed on this team but has the talent and makeup to start for many teams right now.
     
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    irish DSP Staff Member Administrator

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    was a time we didn't have prospects for trades (halladay, hamels, etc)
    now we have the prospects
    make the deal
     
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    I don't doubt that, but I not sure the way the front office handles young arms will allow it.

    I'm hoping Ferguson gets his shit straightened out in the minors. A viable LH arm not named Alexander or Rosscup is a must.
     
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    New BA rankings for July
    Lux is up #13
    Ruiz is down to #31
    May is up to #37
    Smith is up to #51
     
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    The Dodgers FO have made moves that were uncomfortable as they have traded multiple top 100 prospects over the years in Jose De Leon, Grant Holmes, Franklin Montas, Willie Calhoun and Yusniel Diaz to name a few. The last two were used to acquire arguably the best available players at the deadline both years. I'd also like to add that they moved more than a few others that were coming into their own as intriguing specs at the time of their trades. That just shows you how those trades do not automatically equal World Series championships. So insisting on trading Top 50 prospects for relievers with one or maybe two years left on their contracts does not make a whole lot of sense. There are also not really many decent options out there for the bullpen, so finding answers from within may be the best choice at this point outside of a Vazquez or Smith since relievers are quirky individuals anyway. There are some other interesting names out there, but I wouldn't come close to suggesting a Top 100 spect for them like Watson, Greene or Doolittle due inconsistency and/or injury risks. Also, yeah you can trade the #1 prospect in the game(as there were signs that Moncada was being vastly overrated leading up to the trade), like when you are acquiring one of the best pitchers in baseball that is also signed to an incredibly team friendly contract for 3 more years. That type of elite player is not on the market right now, but if there was I probably would be ok with moving Lux.
     
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    Josiah Gray dominated again tonight, going 6.2, 4 H, 7 K, 2 BB. After the hiccup in his first outing at Hi-A, he has been a dominant force including 7 straight starts of 2 ER or less. ERA is now sitting at 2.53, even with that .2, 3 ER outing.
     
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    I don't really disagree with you.

    We have given up quality prospects to acquire good players. By 'consequence' I just mean we might have to give up someone that hurts. De Leon, Holmes, Calhoun, and Diaz did not hurt. Put a dent in our depth? Sure. But there was no potential regret, imo. They weren't Buehler, Urias, Seager, Bellinger, Kershaw type prospects. That doesnt make them useless. If someone even turns out to be a league average player, that is value. But they were a lower tier nonetheless.

    If the Nationals somehow lost 15 in a row (instead of turning it around like they have. Bastards), and Scherzer was available, I'd say the organization should give up someone who hurt. Even if SP is not a weakness, the dude is a horse and one of the best there is. He could carry a staff through October and dominate.

    Trading a huge prospect does not equal automatic success or a WS. Correct.

    Contract status, the other team's needs, which prospects are being discussed, and who is even available etc. all matter. That is a given.

    But there is something called the 3 decades of failure tax at some point. If the Pirates engaged us and Vazquez truly was the difference in winning it all or not, bye bye somebody who hurts to see gone. Because it has been 30 years.

    Idk.
     
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    The only first rounder that has not signed yet is Dodgers #31 pick Michael Busch. They have to sign this guy or they just full blown lose the pick. There is a little over a week left to sign your draft picks, but it would be nice to if they could lock this kid up sooner and get him some AB's.
     
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    De Leon, Holmes, Calhoun, and Diaz may have not hurt. But you never know when you're going to deal the next Pedro, Konerko, or Santana. However, after a 30 year drought, playing to win tomorrow is trumped by playing for today. Can't let this opportunity to win this year escape.
     
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    Pedro hurts bad.

    Santana was stupid money grubbing BS but it doesnt hurt me.

    Konerko...meh. If the Dodgers just finished the job a couple times between 2004-2017 I wouldnt even care. Kenerko was a great player. Great. But I just don't think about him often.

    I will admit. This is subjective as hell.

    I will say this though. Imagine if we did not trade Konerko, kept Beltre, and Utley signed with us when he was drafted.
     
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    looks like we're nearing a deal with our #31 pick, which essentially means we signed everyone we needed to
     
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    Still need to sign 2nd rounder James Lewis and then the Hail Mary would be Brennan Milone. Aside from that, we'd be good to go!
     
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    Oh I thought we’d signed Lewis already but you’re right, we haven’t
     
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    Name To Watch:
    - Miguel Vargas has been on an absolute tear. He was on some watch lists entering the season with an incredibly advanced hit tool. He will play this whole season at the age of 19 and he has been putting up some impressive numbers. He has a smooth swing that generates a lot of line drives, but little to no power which is what had kept his stock down. Over the last two weeks, he has started to hit the ball out of the park and saw an almost immediate promotion from LoA to HiA after that. His K rate has been incredibly impressive and like other Dodgers intriguing bats of late, walks about as much has he K's. The word on him is if the power comes, he is not only an interesting prospect, he could be a monster one.
     
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    He’s the guy who hit 2 home runs, got promoted, then hit a walk off lol
     
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    There has been a rise of the RH bats in our system, which is sorely needed with all of the bats on the big league roster and among our top rated specs. Vargas, Peters, Estevez, Smith, Downs and Santana are all pretty important for the future.
     

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