Discussion in 'Los Angeles DODGERS' started by ColoradoKidWitGame, Jan 4, 2019.
Won't happen because of his deferred salary (precious luxury tax), his advanced age, and the interdivision taboo, but I'd rather have Greinke back instead of trading for Syndergaard (I just cannot bring myself to call him "thor").
Do a 2012-2014 style trade where we take on his entire salary to spare 'specs.
Plenty of mid-late 30s pitchers have made an impact in October. 2 remaining years would not ruin a team who makes 250 million per year on their TV contract. It's short term and we already reset the threshold.
But, again, never gon' happen!
He has apparently told the team that he’s not willing to waive his NTC and wishes to stay in AZ or else we’d probably have heard his name more frequently.
I forgot how much he loves the "sunsets" in AZ, per his introductory presser in 2016.
I think he literally wants to net the most possible amount of money that he can. I’d agree though, finding a way to get him would be great.
So it is August 1st. I am sitting in my villa for the final afternoon overlooking the Andaman Sea trying to figure out how I can make a shit ton of cash quickly and can move here full time. In the meantime, August 1st also means we need to see what kind of impact we could see down the stretch from the farm. I am going to be using the MLB Pipeline Top 30
1. Gavin Lux - The untouchable (we should really make some shirts with these guys on it if we ever win the fucking thing) Lux has cooled off after a white hot start in AAA, but is still wrecking havoc. Lux figures to impact the club at 2B at some point this season as he has been just too fucking good to not get a look. Reports more recently are that he is going to be a monster and like Alex Verdugo, the guy makes a lot of contact. Those two bats could be key for a Dodgers lineup that routinely get's K happy in the playoffs. Lux is also viewed highly for his clubhouse presence as he is said to be a natural leader, something the youth of this team sorely lacks. It is a matter of time for Lux and it mostly hinges on how much longer the FO is comfortable trying Pederson out at 1B now that he has openly said that he is not comfortable at the position. So if the Dodgers choose to stop sacrificing defense, they will bring him up sooner rather than later.
2. Dustin May - Well we are going to find this out in a hurry, aren't we? May is getting the call to start this weekend in a somewhat surprising move(and at home, yay!). While pipeline rates him in the 30's, multiple other sites view him in the top 10-12 prospects in the game. The knock on May is that while he possesses dominating stuff, he has never dominated at any level. Analytic driven rankers feel that May's elite spin rate and deception will play up once he gets a full feel for his repertoire. Another thing to watch is that May is a ground ball pitcher, those guys can have middling success as they climb the ladder since the guys behind them may be a bit weak. Recent reports have May living 95-97 late in ballgames with a top speed reaching 99. His cutter has developed into a true third + pitch while his change still lags behind. He is not quite an ace, but has the stuff where he could become a formidable front line starter if he continues to put everything together. It should also be noted that he came into the Futures game out of the pen, pumping 98-99 with devastating sink. This raised A LOT of eyebrows among the scouting world. May is still about 30 innings from his workload from last year and another 60-70 is very realistic for him.
3. Keibert Ruiz - I did think about not putting him here, but there are a couple reasons why I have now. Rocky Gale is out of the org, Russell Martin could be hurt, Austin Barnes has been fucking terrible even in AAA and Will Smith, while being a godsend can be a bit injury prone. While Ruiz has been struggling a bit this season, he still has shown plenty why he still viewed by many to be possibly the top catching prospect in the game. He would only get the call in likely the worst of circumstances, but now that the club only has 3 MLB level catchers ahead of him, there is always a shot with roster expansion. He is a steady glove behind the dish and has ELITE bat to ball skills, which he is still figuring out as he makes too much contact. Once again, this is the type of bat that can propel you in the playoffs.
4. Will Smith - As we have already seen, this dude is Babe Ruth in catching form. Truthfully, the reviews are still mixed on Smith. While he has had an amazing year, there is still his past pro years of peaks and valley's that are on the mind of some folks. He cut his K numbers WAY down this year in AAA, but may be getting worked over a bit more at the MLB level. He has adjusted his swing where he is still showing great power, but now has the ability to use that power to hit the ball out to all fields. If regression does not come for this young man and he adjusts better than what happened at AAA last year, this kid could be a spark plug in the playoffs.
6. Tony Gonsolin - We had a fun introduction yesterday to what Gonsolin can do. Belief is that he will be used in a relief role down the stretch where he should be able to pump in some triple digit heat to pair with a true 70/80 grade splitter. Gonsolin's innings are WAY down this year due to a reoccurring oblique injury, so there will be no restrictions on him down the stretch. He won't be taking over for likely Urias or May now that he is up, so we should see him get another couple long outings in AAA, before they bring him back to help out of the pen. He has a history of relief and the feeling is that it should not be a problem for him. Gonsolin also possesses a third plus pitch in a curve that could help in long relief capabilities as well.
10. Mitch White - This is a dude that needs to just put it all together once and for all. White has legit front of the rotation stuff, but injuries and mechanic issues have constantly derailed his career. After a solid start to the season in AA, White has been absolutely trounced in AAA. It may be time to move this guy to the pen to see what he has there and see if the FB can play up and if he can regain his slider back to the 80 grade pitch it was dubbed by Keith Law a couple years ago.
11. Dennis Santana - This is another dude who may be best suited for a bullpen role going forward. With a rise in starters like May, Gonsolin, Josiah Gray and Andre Jackson to name a few, it would be nice to start using these on the cusp guys with 2 great pitches that haven't been able to put it all together and bring them into pen roles. Santana's stuff has taken a step back after consecutive years of exciting gains. He still possesses a hammer of a sinker, but he has lost velo on it and his slider periodically morphs into a slurve/curve that can be crushable. He and White would need to move to the pen soon to potentially impact the big league roster this year.
13. DJ Peters -This would likely be in the event that a whole lot of things go wrong. With the trimmed down Sept rosters, Peters has a slim shot of getting the call. He has taken a monster step forward after a promotion to AAA and would likely need an AJ Pollock season ending injury to get MLB playing time. The most likely scenario is Peters is a second half of 2020 guy so that the team can get a real feel for the kid and jump he has made. If the new contact skills are for real, the Dodgers may have fallen into another star level power bat.
19. Edwin Rios - Someone has FINALLY woken up. After a quiet April and May following a down 2018, Rios has been on absolute fire since the calendar flipped to June with 17 home runs in the last two months. Rios is not much in the field, but reports are that he has improved at the hot corner and he has shown an ability to man the OF in a crunch. His biggest impact would be that of a power bat off the bench. Though he is now striking out A TON, he still makes a lot of loud/hard contact. He is basically Matt Beaty with more power/less contact.
27. Jordan Sheffield - This one is a bit surprising for me. Sheffield has been impressive this year across HiA and AA, finding the upper 90's velo he had lost as a starter. He still struggles mightily throwing strikes, but it sure seems like he doesn't have much else to prove at AA. If that velo is back, paired with his two + secondaries, he should be at a level where he could step up to the big club if and when needed. He is one of those "trust your stuff guys" and if it all clicks, he is good enough to be a closer.
This farm is stacked with talent and should be interesting to see where they rank at the end of the year, especially when this is all over, they will be down only two top 30 prospects from the start of the season in Alex Verdugo and Matt Beaty. The biggest impact possibilities are at the top. If the May and Gonsolin can do their thing in the pen, the Dodgers do have the internal options to dominate, problem is that is A LOT to ask from a couple of rookies with 8 major league innings between them.
Nice write up and I agree with most of it. I disagree with the notion that Dustin May has underperformed based on his stuff. He has been outstanding the last two years considering his age and the fact he’s played in hitter environments (along with the juiced ball). I also believe he has ace potential. His delivery is a little violent which would be my biggest concern. But he is easily a #1/2 with ace ceiling.
Also the list needs to include Cartaya who is a future top 50 prospect and possibly even top 25.
It wasn’t a knock on May in that he isn’t good, as his numbers certainly have been good even for the level and for his age. Was saying merely that the biggest knock on him in many folks eyes is that he has never just dominated at a level so expecting him to come up and do so, is probably not wise just yet. Generally ace level guys will do that at some point in MiLB. His ERA tends to be in mid-high 3’s at the end of the year and k-rates up until this season under 1 per IP. It’s why some have him still in the mid top 100 range instead of leading it. FG is huge on his stuff and think he’ll be a monster when he puts it all together, which is why they have him in their top 10.
This wasn’t a write up of what these guys are going to be, but more realistic expectations for guys on the farm that could impact this season. This is why numerous other top prospects are not mentioned, including Diego Cartaya that is probably 3+ years away. I agree though, he’s probably a top 100 by the end of next season. He has had an impressive start to his career.
A semi interesting thing will be how they make room on the 40 man if they wanna add these guys. We currently have 3 spots they need to open up for Rich hill, Dustin May, and Gyorko. Easy candidates are moving Alexander to 60 day DL, and then you get to either: another 60 day DL if Freese/Taylor/Enrique are hurt or DFAing someone. Prime candidates are Negron or Schultz or White but after that idk.
Then there’s another spot that would need to possibly open up for Lux if they want to call him up. Will be interesting if they do. The FO seems to be aggressive with some players and conservative with others. But some of the late season call ups haven’t worked great (Buehler and Verdugo weren’t that great when first caked up)
really excited about all of them
i think gonsolin will have the biggest impact
but there are a lot of possibilities as @ColoradoKidWitGame noted
i know it’s not the popular opinion, but not making a big deal yesterday could end up being the best move of all
time will tell
We tried it the other way i.e. getting Yu and Manny and it didn't work so trying another way hopefully works.
Surprised btw, that Kelly has 5 wins.
When did that shit happen?
When he inherited leads, blew them, and got the decision after the Dodgers scored.
I hope the " other way" does work, but I don't believe AF decided to "try" it like that. Rather, the Pirates and whoever else they were talking to told them to fuck off.
Couldn't/wouldn't make the deal, plain and simple. And still the same problems now for years.
the fact they acquired both negron and gyorko makes me believe there’s concern over taylor/freese/kiké returning and/or being effective/productive
Yup. Especially cause those guys go through bad slumps even when fully healthy. Also helps protect in the even that Verdugo goes into a slump and they need to bench him against lefties
Hoping Verdugo got his stroke (no homo) back in Colorado yesterday.
Lux just keeps hitting .451/.534/.867 in 133 PAs at OKC, still an incredibly small sample of course.
Looking forward to seeing him play tomorrow night.
Ok, so I just got back from the game......and first let me say that new park is beautiful. If you're gonna be in town during baseball season, I highly recommend staying at Red Rock and you'll be right across the street from the stadium.
Now to the game..........
Lux had a few good ABs, worked a walk, grounded into a forceout (would've been a DP, but he beat it), struck out (but a quality AB) and lined out. Unfortunately, he was the DH, so I can't offer any firsthand insight into defensive ability.
DJ Peters is the other guy I wanted to mention, very impressed with how far his game has come, took a walk and roped a double to center that drove in 2. He was adequate in CF, but I can see why everyone says he profiles better as a corner.
Ferguson was a mess, I don't even know where to begin with that guy.
Not really related, but I wanted to mention it, Zach Reks took a scary crash into the LF wall, stayed in the game though, hopefully he is ok.
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