DODGERS 2019 MINOR LEAGUE/PROSPECTS THREAD

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  1. ColoradoKidWitGame

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    It definitely didn't help it, but I don't think it cratered it like some say. Fangraphs still maintains that he is a 60 FV prospect, which is a perennial all star level grading. The word has always been that Smith was going to get figured out, but these recent reports are incredibly positive and most think that he has done enough to be a very good catcher. I'm just worried as he has shown some inability to stay healthy for long stretches.
     
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    Billy Ashley agrees.
     
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    Well, at least I'm not the only 1 wondering WTF..


    Dodgers: Missing Andrew Toles
    We are missing a fan favorite.
    by Tim Rogers

    https://www.dodgersnation.com/dodgers-missing-andrew-toles/2019/08/12/
     
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    I’d think the logical move (and what I’d expect them to do) is go into next season with Smith as the starter and Barnes as the backup, with Ruiz repeating at AAA. IMO there’s no way a catcher putting up a .304 wOBA in AA at 20 years old is a bad sign, and SSS but he’s been hitting in AAA since the promotion too. Keep them both in the organization and let it play out. It’s too valuable a position to trade him for anything other than a star.

    They can fix the bullpen in free agency.
     
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    If Gavin is everything scouts say he is, and if he's even a fraction of what he's doing in AAA, then he should be playing 2B for the Dodgers in 2 weeks.
     
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    Yeah I definitely don't disagree with that idea. As I have stated, I have always been worried about Smith's durability and the fact that he is a catcher, makes that a bit scarier to me. With that said, the club was still said to be floating Ruiz's name in trade discussions at the deadline, so with that in mind, I would not be shocked to see if the club looked to use Ruiz to improve the roster elsewhere in the offseason. Since they were said to have been kicking the tires on at least Syndergaard, I would not be surprised if the org tried to use Ruiz to be a centerpiece for a big starting pitcher acquisition. Since those deals are hard to pull off, I also would not be surprised to hear that he doesn't get traded either. If the plan again in the offseason is "big game hunting", then he makes the most sense to be used as bait, but only if we are talking a big impact player.
     
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    Yeah if like Syndergaard or Scherzer are on the table I would be willing to part with him, but otherwise they should keep him and use money to fill the holes in the BP and the back of the rotation (and maybe 1B)

    I would’ve been willing to deal him for Vazquez this deadline but not in the off-season when we could sign a reliever for just money
     
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    Gavin Lux has reached base in 49 straight games, still .434/.517/.809 in 178 PAs. Hit his 24th HR (11th in OKC) last night.
     
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    But but but...Kike and Taylor may be back soon!
     
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    VRP and his comedy stylings! Wow!
     
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    Josiah Gray continues to pitch well, however, it looks as if they are limiting innings (only 10 1/3 over the last 3 appearances), he's at 124 1/3 for the year, a pretty good jump from last season (52 1/3 + whatever he did in his college season).
     
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    Dude has been legit and his fastball is now working up to 97 MPH. Some reports on him are still so-so about his secondaries, but it sounds like his floor is looking much better.
     
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    Interesting piece about the Jays and the raises they gave to their MiLB players this season. If you are unaware, MiLB players are woefully underpaid, especially at the lowest levels. Most of these guys struggle on a day by day basis and the offseason can be somewhat of a terrifying or frustrating predicament for many players. The Jays gave around a 50% raise to all of their prospects, which may sound like a lot on the surface, but in terms of general pay it is still bad. The Dodgers were innovators with the way they have maximized development, the article makes a great point of how this could be the next piece to unlock more of a players potential by helping them save more during the season so that they can survive in the offseason and concentrate more on their training. Really hope we adopt this next.

    https://www.ocregister.com/2019/08/...flow&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com
     
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    204 PA for Gavin Lux in AAA
     
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    A reminder that Republicans voted to strip players of their fundamental rights as laborers.
     
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    Uh-oh.
    Sauce is here.

    I don't give a crap about what legislators do about this, R or D.

    It's on the owners, the league, the players, and the union to figure this out.

    If they don't, maybe the sport will disappear and that's the consequence.
    The greedy owners will lose their businesses and the players can find different careers.
    Zack Greinke can be a professor of public speaking, Yimi Garcia can flip burgers, Clayton can be a pastor, and Gavin Lux still won't be in MLB.

    Good businesses treat their employees well. If MLB is not one of them (which is a fair argument), fans should stop consuming the product and amateur players should go to college or get a different job instead. And maybe the league will change. Do not wait on bureaucrats to "fix" anything. Baseball is not a product people NEED, and its absence will not ruin society.
     
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    even karl marx hated when people took his literal terms and took them as symbols to be used to make hollow political analogies
    nba players are not laborers
    they are highly skilled tradesmen AND entertainers that often rise to cultural icons
    they are multifaceted entrepreneurs using their talents to exploit a product in a market
    there would be no oil/coal barons if there wasn't coal/oil to exploit and a market that wants to buy whatever coal/oil can help them generate $$$
    nba players are not laborers
     
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    MLB was breaking federal minimum-wage pay laws by paying the vast majority of minor league players less than minimum wage. That was until Congress passed a law (signed by the President) in early 2018 that made an exception to the law for minor league players. They are now considered salaried employees, even though their hourly rate is way below minimum-wage for the hours they are required to work.

    If you don't agree with minimum-wage laws in the first place, then it's easy to give a big FU to the players.

    But if you believe in minimum-wage, then Sauce's point is valid. MLB is basically dangling their major league contracts as a lottery ticket to get cheap labor on the field, in a way that is illegal in virtually any other industry.
     
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    I mention Sauce's name only because he rarely comments on anything that actually pertains to the Dodgers.
    I do not like minimum wage (although I am not a staunch opponent of it).
    Not being a fan of minimum wage, you can understand how that would not be my threshold for determining the salaries.
    I do agree, however, that those salaries are low, independant of any minimum wage/hours calculation.
    My point is that the root of the problem is the league and its owners not valuing its low level labor force, and a labor force who chooses to accept these wages and potential earnings over alternative careers. The problem was not created by legislation and it will not be solved by legislation.
    The difference would be negligible because they wont pay a penny more than they have to.
    If the owners believe happier and healthier players will give them a competitive advantage, I think we will see some movement there. If not...
    ...I believe the ones who will suffer the biggest consequence if/when minor-leaguers and fans stop participating....will be the owners.
    They will get what they deserve.
    But too many parties within the league itself (including the players) are complicit.
    Players see dollar signs down the road and are willing to take the risk.

    As much as I love success stories like Rich Hill and many others who became great players in their late 30s... If you make a decision to continue to play minor league baseball in your late 20s and early 30s instead of using your free will to go learn a skill and find a career that pays better....That's your choice. Minor league baseball is for 18-25 year olds (mostly) who would otherwise be students or just starting out anyways. I don't want them to starve, though (if they are), and the league should probably take a look at a realistic increase in pay.
     
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    First off, I like to give you right-wingers shit sometimes. I get the “let capitalism play it out” argument... but this was a case where congress went out of their way to help MLB owners at the expense of players. It was just a clear case of “these rich guys give us a lot of money, let’s hook them up” bullshit in politics.

    But hell, should we cry for a 20-year-old living his dream and playing ball everyday? Probably not.
     
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