MLB 2020-2021 OFF-SEASON NEWS AND RUMORS

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  1. Fall Winslow

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    We've been here before. We'll see. Like I've been saying for weeks in regards to Lindor..window is open so attack. Opportunities to slam home a dynasty don't come along often. Gotta seize the day and the chance to be legendary. $ will work itself out in the long run and in the present AF will do his valuation thing. Lindor's great, but Arenado works too

    That being said, all this stuff could be being leaked to put pressure on Seager to take a reasonable deal. One can only hope that AF isn't about to give Seager some outrageous contract 1 calendar year after shopping him in trade talks
     
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    BlueMouse DFA Kenley Staff Member Administrator

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    Waive his NTC for the remainder of his contract? Or waive his NTC just so the Dodgers can trade for him? I assume the later isn't an issue.
     
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    I am going to jump out not individually respond to a lot of the Arenado stuff I am seeing to point out a couple of things about the player:
    • Reports on his attitude are in regards to his feelings towards the Rockies ownership and FO. He re-signed when it looked like the Rockies were about to take a leap forward and was told that they would compete around him. Instead the owner tightened the purse strings and the club had one of the most laughably bad offseasons in recent memory. They have done nothing to fill in the roster around he, Story and Blackmon over the last 2 years and used the Dodgers "lack of dealings" as a reason to believe in the system. The Rockies, unlike the Dodgers have one of the worst MiLB systems in the game.
    • There have not been reports of him being a bad teammate. People have said this, but that is said to not be true at all and it is felt that cause he does not like the cheapness of the FO, that he is not a good teammate. That is said to not be correct. Where he is not a good teammate is said to be that he is not a good leader. He is not a clubhouse guy that is going to pick you up when you are down or take you aside and tell you what you are doing wrong. That is just not the kind of guy that he is and that's a problem with the Rockies as he, Blackmon and Story are all quiet guys that let their games speak. There was a quote by Kevin Pillar that was taken out of context when he said something like "with Nolan out of the lineup we all kind of relaxed a bit." If you listened to the whole interview, he said that the team wants to win for Nolan and when he left they literally said, "well our season is over." They relaxed cause they knew they were going to lose without him.
    • There is absolutely no doubt that Arenado does better at home than the road, it's hard to find a current Rockies player who isn't. What we are learning is that the truly good hitters are fine once they leave Colorado. The issue is not "oh I am a shitty player outside of Coors", it's that these guys struggle constantly adjusting to the different depth and movement they see when they are going back and forth. Holliday and LeMahieu being the best recent examples. The Rockies have done a good job of normally holding onto their stars, so the SSS is somewhat small.
    I think if we could get Arenado, that would be awesome. It then leads to the question of whether or not the team thinks that Seager is a long term option for the organization. His defense at SS leaves a decent bit to be desired and the questions about his stamina to remain at the position are legit. I think the long term play would be to move Seager to 3B and look at either Lindor or Story for SS.
     
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    Mookie and Arenado..quite the bloodthirsty duo if things do work out in negotiations. Fiery competitors day in and day out. 162 games of that level of action..of unrivaled passion for the game and winning? Don't mind if we do
     
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    Yeah, that was interesting part to me cause, yes the opt out almost seems to help a team like the Rockies. I thought the same thing in that it probably helps unless the Dodgers are interested in taking on the whole amount or they are going to be sending the Rockies a ton of prospects and they are desperate for them. The other risk for the Rockies is that he gets hurt and doesn't opt out, suddenly you have a dude with an NTC that's not worth his contract on your roster.
     
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    Bah, I meant waive his opt out. I am gonna change it.
     
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    That was something that Bowden mentioned. The Dodgers like that they would be bringing in a dude that is absolutely zeroed in on winning. I guess the FO feels it would be a needed presence in the clubhouse.
     
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    A silver lining in the Arenado rumors, if they are true it means the Dodgers probably aren't concerned with the Luxury tax in 2021. I know there is a lot coming off the books in 2022, so maybe they think they have another chance to reset it before they need to pay some of the younger guys. Or maybe they don't care. As a fan I like it if they don't care about the tax.
     
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    Morosi mentioned Lux as a possible trade piece, but if Arenado is a precursor to letting Seager walk I would think Lux becomes even more valuable to the Dodgers.
     
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    Yeah, this would mean that they are planning on resetting in a year. Something they mentioned on the NBA channel when talking about the tax, they said that the league was going to ease the tax burden this year on teams after the hit from last season. I wonder if that could be in play for MLB as well. If so, Dodgers are getting ahead of it.
     
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    We also are a year away from 5 star SS's becoming free agents and if we have another shortened season + no fans in the stands as is presumed, there are going to be a lot of teams that are hurting a year from now. The Dodgers could simply sit back and wait to grab one of those guys at a discounted rate. Still, no fucking way is Lux in the deal unless the team is really worried about Lux.
     
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    I will say this, if the Dodgers REALLY are talking to the Rockies about Arenado... there are 29 other teams in the league that are starting to sweat.
     
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    Absolutely. I wasn't shitting on the team when I pointed out their fortune in coming back from 3-1..in avoiding a Game 7 VS Tampa. Things ended up working out for LAD, but fans wanted their heads just a couple weeks before. Lol They simply weren't dominant. FO should want to be dominant

    We know our team and how bland they can be at times. Still work needed on the culture. Heavy lifting is done for the most part..still need to ditch the very heavy Jansen and his shit, but the ball is rolling. I called Kasten - that asshole - who could push for another big addition..maybe he's behind this push for Arenado? We know this - after the Braves added McGriff and eventually won big, they got passive and never won again. Guess we'll just have to see if any of this Arenado stuff has real legs
     
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    Apparently the FO has been very vocal behind in the scenes in saying that this is not a one and done goal. I think the org is very well aware of the Braves "yeah, but" run and don't want to be known as the team that dominated the division for a decade to only walk away with a single title. If they are in on Arenado, I would be really interested to see what else is going on behind the scenes right now.
     
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    yeah if there’s one year where it doesn’t hurt as much to lose your all star short stop, it’s next year haha. I’m not surprised boras and Seager won’t want to sign yet, there’s so many damn variables out there and Seager is coming off arguably the highest his value has ever ever been. We’re in November, he’s got so much time to change his tune.

    I also don’t think it’s crazy for Dodgers to have Seager/Nolan/Mookie. I’d hate to NOT get arenado to save for a hypothetical with Seager. You get the damn good players, and you’re 2021 is unreal. You figure out 2022 later, a million things could happen.
     
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    I'm not gonna lie... I may have taken that quote out of context. I thought Pillar was subtley shitting on Arenado.
     
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    I mean let's be honest here, Seager's defensive metrics were pretty bad last season as well. The FO may be reluctant to pay him as a star SS for 7-8 years when they may think of him as a 3B in the real near future. The more I look at it, the more I think this is a powerplay to say to Seager, "sign a deal with us or we are getting the guy that is playing the position you would have if you re-signed and we can look at one of the more athletic SS's next offseason before making a decision on you."
     
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    i have nothing to base this on... but i have this feeling that seager is a career altering injury waiting to happen
    racist
     
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    Having to win 3 straight after losing 3 of 4 to a playoff-worthy team - the second best team in the NL and possibly in MLB - doesn't taint the season as far as I'm concerned. Statistically, the Dodgers were dominant this year.
     
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    All the more reason he should extend now rather than risk another season.
     
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