GAME THREAD DODGERS/D'BAGS

Discussion in 'Los Angeles DODGERS' started by irish, Apr 13, 2017.

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  1. irish

    irish DSP Staff Member Administrator

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    somewhat similar with mehcarthy
    he was breezing, looking good [no homo]
    and then a two out hit to the opposing pitcher [essentially] started it all
     
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    BlueMouse 2020 World Champions

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    Has our B-team won a game yet?
     
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    BlueMouse 2020 World Champions

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    I wouldn't take 90 wins and the playoffs for granted right now.
     
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    doyerfan MODERATOR Staff Member Moderator

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    Saturday, haha.
     
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    Take it to the bank brother...and that attitude that we'll win again, as sure as the pope is catholic, is exactly why this team looks flat and dreary...everyone just assumes we win the NLW.
    Everyone picked us; everyone says so. Lol.
    And I read more and more about the pitcher who goes out there and looks good for this inning or that inning, but in another, gives up a three run HR, like Maeda, for instance.
    Yeah, one bad pitch after a walk and a seeing eye dribbler is what the other guys are looking for...and you lose because of it. That is all it takes. Baseball. Yup.
    A RP that comes in a tie game as does the same is OK if he only gives a meatball to one guy that homers off him and essentially loses the game by doing so, is OK? That is always bad, and with our lineup with RISP? Insurmountable.
    " He was really good, except for the game losing bad pitch/inning" Smh.
    Meanwhile, back in the jungle, another loss.
    Not that important.
     
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    fsudog21 DSP Legend

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    Go ask any Dodger starting pitcher not named Kershaw for that answer.

    Here we are in April and the pen is already taxed because of starters who hit the wall in the 5th inning.
     
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    fsudog21 DSP Legend

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    The walk that preceded it didn't help, either.
     
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    fsudog21 DSP Legend

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    Fastballs at the top of the strike zone recently say otherwise.
     
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    Happened right near where we were seated. Security treated him like JFK in Dallas.

    Got some great seats from Vivid (Field 26, Row C) for $24. First time I ever used them.

    Also caught a ball for the first time ever and I've been going to games since they opened the stadium. Segedin tossed a ball into the stands in the top of the first. I didn't see it at first. Picked it up at the last minute and it was just about to hit my wife in the ribs. Caught it cleanly. Was just about to give it to the kid in front of me when I remembered that my 6 yr old grandson is coming to town from Ohio tonight. I saved it for him. Certainly not like a live game action foul ball, but it will do.

    I only go to a couple of games a year, but I have to ask. Does anyone watch the fucking game anymore? Never mind me. Just an old man wishing all electronic devices were left in the car and that no one would be allowed to get and walk in front of me during game action. Do your business in between innings.

    Rant over.
     
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    jpldodgers DSP Legend Staff Member Moderator

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    Strongly disagree.
     
  11. THINKBLUE

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    *As realistic as any other team in the NL
    Second tier behind the Cubs, but at or above the level of everyone else imo

    I hear what you're saying though. We look lame rn
     
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    Oh yeah...agree.
    Not me that is touting the big improvement...it's the announcers...they have to, actually. Seems to me, no matter what he changes, he struggles for a lengthy period.
    That was a high fast ball he tagged in the first game for the grand salami, so maybe he thinks he's on it...but since then, not so much.
    Great cf though.
     
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  13. Fall Winslow

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    When I'm talking player production, I'm not talking about what Jackie or Shaq did when they were 36/37/38 yrs old and on their last legs. Nobody really cares about those years. I'm talking about peak year(s) player production aka prime. MLB saw what Jackie was at his peak/in his prime, he didn't lose that to Jim Crow. Again, as I said afterwards, Jackie was obviously a great ballplayer and deserving of a statue. Just at his position, all-time, he couldn't have come in any higher than #3, more than likely outside the Top 5, and not as high as Shaq is ranked in his sport when including all positions. I don´t think it´s a sin or false to say that Shaq was better in his sport.


    Now, I agree with much of that, and said I get what Jackie meant in terms of historical significance in the actual post you responded to. Shaq had to battle outrageous/tough fouls and biased referring, but it was levels below what Jackie had to endure. My post wasn't to disparage Jackie. It was a conversation about Shaq's merit when it comes to deserving a statue in front of the arena he helped build. One fella was saying Shaq didn't deserve it, and then later on saying that Shaq wasn't 1 of the 10 best players to ever play.. " not even close " - his words. Now, for me it's one thing to say that Shaq wasn't 1 of the 10 best to ever do it, but when you add " not even close " to it, objectivity is clearly just absent at that point.
     
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    Feel bad for Hill?
    He just got a pretty big contract for a 37-38 yr old, and as long as he tries to fight through he´ll be getting his $
    No, I feel bad for us..we have to witness this shit and root him on Lol
    Hurry up, Julio.
    For the love of all things holy..hurry
     
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  15. CapnTreee

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    Good article on that topic

    https://www.si.com/mlb/2017/04/18/dodgers-brandon-mccarthy-yankees-james-kaprielian
    Three Strikes: How the Dodgers are changing the way pitchers are used
    Los Angeles is taking advantage of a new rule and a roster full of capable starting pitchers to not only succeed in the regular season but to set itself up for success in October.

    The Los Angeles Dodgers once again want you to forget everything you think you knew about starting pitching. The franchise that has given us Sandy Koufax, Don Drysdale, Fernando Valenzuela, OrelHershiser and Clayton Kershaw is willingly de-emphasizing what used to be the bedrock of winning baseball: reliable, innings-eating starting pitchers.

    Rich Hill has a recurring blister problem. Julio Urias is throwing three or four innings per start in Triple A. Scott Kazmir is throwing mid-80s in extended spring training. Brock Stewart has a bum shoulder. Jair Jurrjens, who hasn’t pitched in the majors in three years, is getting a tryout in the Triple A rotation.

    All that, and yet everything is perfectly fine for a 7-7 team that plans to use at least a dozen starting pitchers this year. Welcome to a world in which MLB teams put an average of six pitchers on the disabled list every day, and the 200-inning pitcher has never been more rare.

    “There’s no team that has the kind of depth we do,” said one club source. “This team is built to win 95 games on the strength of depth carrying us over six months. We should get to 95 wins. But the year comes down to this: Clayton, Richie and Julio being healthy and ready to go to start playoff games. That’s it. So if it means they throw 170 innings instead of 200, that’s fine. They’ll actually be better for it.”

    When you outspend the rest of baseball by 20% (the Dodgers’ payroll is about $242 million), you can afford to look all the way to October. What Los Angeles is doing upends what has worked for more than 100 years. Great gobs of money, the rise of bullpen usage and the growing inventory of pitchers who throw hard have emboldened the Dodgers to simply outnumber teams when it comes to pitching.

    ...
     
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    I'm trying to stop being a glass half empty guy when it comes to the Dodgers, but I am really concerned about the starting pitching behind Kershaw. Hill's blister issues look like they'll be a problem all season and even when he is healthy, he seems unable to pitch deep into games. 0 confidence in Maeda/Ryu to pitch well in the playoffs, and I don't trust McCarthy to sustain his early season success with his inconsistent track record. I think we'll win the NL West, but I don't like how the rotation looks for the playoffs and I definitely don't have confidence in our lineup vs left handed pitching.
     
  17. Bluezoo

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    Like that you posted that...we all should read it.
    But imo, it is a total crock of shit that the LAD or the FO set out and planned this approach to pitching in MLB. The only reason this is spun to be the " new way" is because the starting pitchers they signed are pretty much all walking wounded, the vaunted " depth" we read so much about is a fucking necessity, not a plan.
    Sure it's great to have talented kids hand over fist down in the minors...considering all the kids that fizzle out, it increases our chances of players capable of solid careers...I get that "depth" and am glad about it.
    But the failure of one Dodger pitcher after another as a pre thought out approach to a ML starting staff is fucking laughable. Hollywood. LAnd of make believe and the spin machine. It is what it is.
    We'll see how it all works out if CO and AZ play decently all year and SF doesn't utterly collapse like last season.
     
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    Agree. This is a "making lemonade out of lemons situation". It's great that we can do it and be competitive, but there's no way this was plan A.
     
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    our starting rotation is overrated imo
    but our depth/future there is not
     
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  20. CapnTreee

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    Indeed, it is what it is

    and moving along... hey the lemonade needs a bit more sugar this season, hope Gonzo can hang a bit longer until Bellinger is ready, or Toles keeps pacing .300. A few more runs with RISP and the pitching staff wouldn't seem quite so pedestrian (behind CK of course)

    Two years out would it have been better to have retained Greinke? 51-15 with us, 14-8 since. He was the only true 1A/2 that we've ever had for Clayton.

    Calling blister boy Hill our #2 for the playoff run produces tremors of fear in many
    Meada got worked hard last year and it showed in the playoffs. He was solid though, a fair 3/4
    Ryu.. I've seen nothing since he went out and its only shear hope that sees him return as anything close to a 3/4
    MehCarthy has to prove it once all the way through before I back that fragile horse
    Wood has some chops, I don't cringe when he enters
    Same with youngster Stripling, he's a keeper
    As much as the early starter pitching has been a shit storm we can't complain too much about not breaking Urias in right, it's only to our future benefit

    Overall a serious meh after CK unless the kids light it up
     

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