DODGERS FA Destination Contest

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  1. ColoradoKidWitGame

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    I am going to use the MLB Trade Rumors Top 20. We did 10 last year, but people kept adding as the offseason went on. Here you go and feel free to add any others you are confident about.

    1. Gerrit Cole, RHP (QO)
    2. Anthony Rendon, 3B (QO)
    3. Stephen Strasburg, RHP (QO)
    4. Zack Wheeler, RHP (QO)
    5. Josh Donaldson, 3B (QO)
    6. Madison Bumgarner, LHP (QO)
    7. Yasmani Grandal, C
    8. Nicholas Castellanos, COF/CIF/DH
    9. Hyun-Jin Ryu, LHP
    10. Jake Odorizzi, RHP (QO)
    11. Marcell Ozuna, LF (QO)
    12. Didi Gregorious, SS
    13. Will Smith, LHP (QO)
    14. Dallas Keuchel, LHP
    15. Cole Hamels, LHP
    16. Jose Abreu, 1B/DH (QO)
    17. Michael Pineda, RHP
    18. Mike Moustakas, 3B
    19. Kyle Gibson, RHP
    20. Tanner Roark, RHP
     
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    For me:
    1. Gerrit Cole, RHP (QO) Angels
    2. Anthony Rendon, 3B (QO) Dodgers
    3. Stephen Strasburg, RHP (QO) Nationals
    4. Zack Wheeler, RHP (QO) Phillies
    5. Josh Donaldson, 3B (QO) Nationals
    6. Madison Bumgarner, LHP (QO) Brewers
    7. Yasmani Grandal, C Brewers
    8. Nicholas Castellanos, COF/CIF/DH Giants
    9. Hyun-Jin Ryu, LHP Angels
    10. Jake Odorizzi, RHP (QO) Twins
    11. Marcell Ozuna, LF (QO) Cardinals
    12. Didi Gregorious, SS Marlins
    13. Will Smith, LHP (QO) Giants
    14. Dallas Keuchel, LHP Braves
    15. Cole Hamels, LHP Brewers
    16. Jose Abreu, 1B/DH (QO) White Sox
    17. Michael Pineda, RHP Astros
    18. Mike Moustakas, 3B Brewers
    19. Kyle Gibson, RHP Padres
    20. Tanner Roark, RHP Mariners
     
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    Answer for questions 1 - 20: Not the Dodgers
     
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    The Score has some of these written up here ... https://www.thescore.com/mlb/news/1870492

    Rendon stays with WAS, Cole to LAA, Stras to HOU, MadBum to ATL, Yaz to CIN, Wheeler to PHI, Ryu to MIN, Josh stays with ATL, Odorizzi & Castellanos to CHISOX ...
     
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    0-20. Looks like Seager’s post season batting stat.
     
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    Dodgers to "express interest" in about 10 of those guys.


    Dodgers to sign 0 of them.
     
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    I would be shocked if Houston landed a guy like Stras since they are said to be close to tapped out financially. They already have 147M committed in 2020 and that is before raises to Springer(12M in 2019), Osuna(6.5M) and Correa (5M) amongst others without even a starting catcher on the roster. Hard to see them spend that significantly on one position when they may need 2 starting pitchers.
     
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    A.J. Pollock says hold my beer.
     
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    I think WSH is way more likely to re-sign Strasburg than Rendon
     
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    IIRC, Nats offered Harper $100M in deferred money last offseason and of course, he passed, so I don't know how likely it is that they sign any of these guys. Corbin ended up taking that deferred money offer and I believe Scherzer's contract has a gang of deferred money as well, but that doesn't mean everybody is OK with that structure.

    Certainly don't believe the Yankees or Halos have to defer anything. Trout's deal has no deferred money nor does Pujols' contract. Cardinals' final offer to Pujols had $40-50M in deferred $ and obviously, he wasn't going for that. Pads' deal with Manny..no deferred $. No deferred $ for Hosmer either. So we'll see what the Nats are about pretty soon
     
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    I get why, fiscally, deferred money is less appealing. Still, knowing that I might get millions per annum for a decade after I retired also has a nice ring to it as well.

    Either way, the Nats will not likely repeat the success they just caught in a bottle this October. If they lose Rendon & Stras, they will be fortunate to win 81 games next year. Of course, I'm a Dodger fan ... so WTF do I know about winning anywho?
     
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    Yeah, it also sounds like Stras wants to stay with the club and I guess he finally moved his family to DC before last season which helps their case out. Not that either one is easily replaceable, but the Nats top prospect is also an MLB ready 3B/SS. With no great pitching on the way, they may elect to to go the route of strong rotation and hope the kids bats can keep them in things.
     
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    No idea what sort of person Stras is, but I know too many people who live in DC/Maryland/Virginia/beltway region, and I cannot imagine why someone would CHOOSE to stay there when crime and social toxicity are what they are there. DC, Baltimore, that shitty corner of the U.S. is like roulette ...

    Yeah, with his current pay, he can certainly shelter himself and his family from the shit, but when places like Texas offer similar or a LOT more money, given the tax rate differences and the like, why would a player stay in DC? hell, even a move to NY is far safer than living in the nation's capital.
     
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    From what I have been told, their are plenty of nice places to live out there and I am sure with all the politicians and diplomats in the region, their are some incredibly strong schools as well. In regards to Texas, the offers would likely be nowhere near the same. As I mentioned, the Astros finances are said to be a bit tighter this offseason unless they start unloading some of their stars, which is not expected. Also... it is Texas, even though the Astros play in a dome it doesn't change the fact that for roughly 3 months out of the year, it is downright awful to go outside. If a player likes the franchise they came up with, they are more likely to want to stay. There is generally less pressure to perform, more leeway for mistakes and a comfort level with the people around you, too many people disregard those reasons when players make decisions like this.
     
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    Wouldn't close the book on the Nats for a couple reasons..Stras and Soto. That Scherzer took deferred money, Stras may be willing to fall in line and do the same.

    Rendon on the other hand..he's reportedly already rejected a $210M offer from the Nats, so I'd be interested to know how much of that money was deferred. The " might " part could be another factor in why guys are turning down deferred offers. Of course, one of the things about getting millions and millions of deferred money long after you've retired is that you have to be here to see it
     
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    The Nats have also changed up their deferral philosophy in the last couple years from what I can tell. It isn't that they do the Bobby Bonilla yearly payout for 30 years. They are doing like $5+M lump sums for a couple years to get those payments over with. Finski mentioned taxes and some players likely want those deferrals to be paid out at the end of their careers when they are living in a more tax friendly state. So these guys are likely thinking retirement and after they are done, they move to a Texas or Arizona.
     
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    The size of these top contracts is so absurd that deferred money, upfront money ... it all sounds good.

    But the agents for these guys know how to invest the money well, and they should be able to get a safe 7-8% return on invested money. Compound that over multiple years, and it adds up quickly, it even makes up for tax loss pretty quickly.

    For any team flirting with the luxury tax, it actually makes more sense to pay out contracts early if you can sign players for a lower amount because the perceived/actual value is the same or better than a deferred contract at a higher amount of $.
     
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    cole, braves
    rendon, dbags
    strasburg, nats
    wheeler, giants
    donaldson, phils
    bumgarner, dodgers
    grandal, padres
    castellanos, rockies
    ryu, astros
    odorizzi, red sox
    ozuna, cards
    gregorious, indians
    smith, red sox
    keuchel, giants
    hamels, dodgers
    abreu, white sox
    pineda, reds
    moustakas, brewers
    gibson, cubs
    roark, braves
     
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    Yankees don't like this.
     
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    yankees plan to get what they need via trade...

    Yankees acquire A.J. Pollock from Dodgers
    by Jeff Todd | MLB Trade Rumors — 23 December 2019

    According to ESPN News, the New York Yankees and Los Angeles Dodgers have made a deal to swap underachieving outfielders — A.J. Pollock will go from Los Angeles to New York, and Jacoby Ellsbury will join the Dodgers.

    As Pollock has three years remaining on his contract versus Ellsbury’s one, the Dodgers will also include Clayton Kershaw, Corey Seager and $100 million cash in the deal.

    This deal was first reported by MLB’s Ken Rosenthal.​
     

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