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  1. Doughty8

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    ...and the beat goes on...
     
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    Not for anything, but a bone spur or growth or WTF it is, isn't something that pops up overnight, and becomes aggravating or painful...I'm pretty sure this anomaly was a while in the making. So couldn't , or wouldn't it seem prudent to have this operated on well before this present time? Also, I remember Jensen being out for a couple of games at least for a "foot ailment" in the past (or maybe I'm "misremembering, like Brian Williams and Hillary Clinton). But what was that shit then?
    This is something that can't be avaoided, having things like this come up...it's life. But as a professional athlete, where millions of dollars are spent, the timing is pure Ned Colletti. For chrissakes...
    Just reeks of Schmidt and Jones level ineptness from the medical staff being aware.
    The more things change, the more they stay the same....
     
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    Like he intentionally wants to miss 12 weeks... He obviously just noticed discomfort in it apparently last week. No conspiracy theory here.
     
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    Who said it was a conspiracy?
    I wrote ineptness on the LAD part on some level. It's not like we haven't dealt with BS medical shit before.
    So, if it isn't it isn't...just seems to me something like this doesn't pop up in a week, that's all.
     
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    have to admit the same thing crossed my mind
    when they said "he noticed discomfort running last week"
    i wondered if this was the first running he had done all offseason
    probably nothing more that what's being reported
    still, have to wonder if we're fucken cursed of something
     
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    Thank you...and to answer your query: yes, we are cursed goddamit.
     
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    The sabre-metric set has long disagreed with you, according to several writers, a strike out is just an out. For the record, I agree with you, putting the ball in play counts for something...at least it forces action. But the sabre argument is that a strike out actually has the potential to be the least costly of outs, as it can't result in a double play (unless the runner takes off, or gets caught napping.) I have long supported the theory that putting the ball in play (even a bunt) is more desirable but I've been told many times I'm wrong, old-fashioned, and stubborn. Case in point is Adam Dunn who K's somewhere around .320+ (too lazy to look it up right now, but it's pretty close) but gets a pass because of his power numbers. But back in the day many power hitters K'd around 10% of the time and hit for high average. Anyway, modern theory is K's don't really matter.
     
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    A couple of thoughts triggered by BZ and Irish. Where does Kenley live in the off season? He might reside out of the country and out of the reach of our medical staff. Most of these guys have off season homes elsewhere and international players just that. Some players get in shape and or stay in shape year round. Others oh well more cheeseburgers in and less calories out in the off season. Kenley has never impressed me as a workout monster sort. Irish, inline with our conversation in another forum. This injury is just like investing and having crap happen as you know it will. That's why I find most prognostications laughable as they don't factor the unexpected and can't because it is that. One of the goals of the new management in the off season was to boost the depth and near major league ready talent in the farm system. As with all teams expect the success of that to be tested. Injuries will happen and are overall roster construction will be put to the challenge. If Greece and the Ukraine make an investor panic they need to buy CD's if injuries make fans panic then they ought not gloat until the season is over. Are we jinxed heck no, lets just hope new management is better prepared for crap happening. They are trying to be the only question is will it be in time for the inevitable poop hitting fan events. This is the first one and probably not the last.
     
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    with you as well
    and i too was surprised when the stats backed it up
    guess the wild pitch/passed ball strikeouts offset the errors on balls in play
     
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    agreed
    when you get down to it, it doesn't really matter how the injury occurred
    he's on the shelf and there's nothing that can change that now
    just gotta move forward
    like i said before, better now that later
     
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    Of course the modern theory also has holes from the team aspect of the game. Double plays are situational..as you probably know, plenty of other situations require a bat on the ball in the least. For example; the Dodgers ranked 18th in the league last year when it came to getting runners home from 3B with less than 2 outs..a big enough portion of that failure was the whiff. A ball squared up and sent up the middle, gloved or not, scores a man from 3B. Then of course there's the hit and run team aspect as well as just simply moving a runner to 3B to put pressure on the pitcher/catcher to keep everything in front of them. How many times do we see wild pitches decide close games? How many times do we see the man at 3B dictate the pitch selection? And of course players who do a lot of their damage with infield hits needs not K. Not the 1st time that I've disagreed with one of their theories..won't be the last either.
     
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    To be fair, I should also mention that not every sabermetrician believes wholeheartedly in that theory. Bill James himself lauded Hanley for being a guy who puts the ball in play.
     
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    I don't mind the sabermetrics I just don't like the fact that they think that these theories are the be all end all. I'm sorry but making contact more times than not is better than stranding guys without putting the ball in play.
     
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    ah, cole
    if only it were up to you instead of your stubborn delusional gm...

    Cole Hamels Hopes To Be Traded To Contender
    By Jeff Todd [February 18, 2015 at 3:49pm CST]

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    Phillies lefty Cole Hamels would prefer to be dealt to a contender, he tells Bob Nightengale of USA Today. “I want to go to a place where I can win again,” said Hamels. Though he made clear he was not demanding a trade, Hamels did indicate that he wants to play for a winning ballclub, saying “I know it’s not going to happen here.”

    Hamels, 31, has represented perhaps the biggest unconsummated trade story of the offseason. With all major arms now signed off of the free agent market, and most teams presumably set to enter camp with their rotations intact, he may well be the only achievable prize left for clubs looking to add an impact starter.

    According to Nightengale, the Phillies have continued to work hard to find an acceptable deal. The Padres have dangled a package of Hunter Renfroe and Austin Hedges, but that was not deemed sufficient by the Philadelphia front office. And the Phils have been unsuccessful in prying their key targets from teams like the Red Sox (who won’t include Blake Swihart), Dodgers (who haven’t offered any of the team’s top four prospects), and Cardinals (who have not agreed to move Carlos Martinez).

    Hamels says that he will do his best to prepare for the season in the normal course, and gave no indication that he will do anything other than honor his contract, particularly with camp set to open. “Now that I’m here, I plan on being here for the next six weeks,” said Hamels, explaining that he had kept an eye on rumors over the winter. “I think it would be pretty chaotic if that’s not the case. But it’s out of my control.”

    The veteran southpaw says that he crafted his no-trade list by identifying the nine teams he would most want to play for and leaving himself unprotected from those clubs. Only the Yankees and Rangers can deal for him without approval among American League teams, though Hamels notes that he would be “all ears” to the possibility of waiving his no-trade protection were the Red Sox to work out an agreement to acquire him. (He did not address the idea, advanced in some earlier reports, that he might seek inducements, such as a guarantee of his fifth-year option, from a team over which he possesses veto power.)​
     
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    Amen... but there are so-o-0 many that do consider it just that, and won't have it any other way.
     
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