FEDIT POLITICS Thread

Discussion in 'Los Angeles DODGERS' started by CapnTreee, Aug 12, 2016.

Tags:
  1. fsudog21

    fsudog21 DSP Legend

    Joined:
    Apr 2016
    Messages:
    13,575
    Likes Received:
    15,341
    Trophy Points:
    198
    Larry David and Leon?
     
    Finski likes this.
  2. Bluezoo

    Bluezoo Among the Pantheon

    Joined:
    Nov 2011
    Messages:
    27,440
    Likes Received:
    22,337
    Trophy Points:
    228
    No...not at all. David's character, which is himself I guess, treats Leon as an equal. In all ways.
    Pretty sure you missed the point here, along with your didactic friend.
     
  3. THINKBLUE

    THINKBLUE DSP Gigolo

    Joined:
    Nov 2011
    Messages:
    42,358
    Likes Received:
    25,240
    Trophy Points:
    228
    Sincere question for y'all: do you believe George Floyd was killed because of his race?
     
  4. fsudog21

    fsudog21 DSP Legend

    Joined:
    Apr 2016
    Messages:
    13,575
    Likes Received:
    15,341
    Trophy Points:
    198
    I was kidding.
     
  5. Bluezoo

    Bluezoo Among the Pantheon

    Joined:
    Nov 2011
    Messages:
    27,440
    Likes Received:
    22,337
    Trophy Points:
    228
    Aren't we all ?
     
  6. Bluezoo

    Bluezoo Among the Pantheon

    Joined:
    Nov 2011
    Messages:
    27,440
    Likes Received:
    22,337
    Trophy Points:
    228
    No.
    Killed because Chauvin is a psychotic scumbag.
    Not race at all.
     
    TAFNAC and LAdiablo like this.
  7. BlueMouse

    BlueMouse 2020 World Champions

    Joined:
    Nov 2011
    Messages:
    12,445
    Likes Received:
    14,570
    Trophy Points:
    198
    Yes.
     
    TAFNAC and rube like this.
  8. THINKBLUE

    THINKBLUE DSP Gigolo

    Joined:
    Nov 2011
    Messages:
    42,358
    Likes Received:
    25,240
    Trophy Points:
    228
    So it's debatable at the very least.

    Mouse, would you agree that race being the reason for Floyd's death is speculative?

    If so, that leaves a significant possibility that he wasn't killed because it was black. Maybe it's because the officer was how Zoo described.

    What I'm trying to get at here is that we all have different opinions on why this officer killed George. None of us can really know for sure... but the media, big corporations, sports leagues, streaming services, etc are pushing Mouse's (and many other people's) SPECULATION as FACT.

    My follow up question to that would be: Do you guys believe a sufficient amount of evidence, public discourse and due process has been taken into consideration in order to confidently push/accept this matter-of-fact narrative that George Floyd was killed because he was black?
     
    Last edited: Jun 17, 2020
  9. Bluezoo

    Bluezoo Among the Pantheon

    Joined:
    Nov 2011
    Messages:
    27,440
    Likes Received:
    22,337
    Trophy Points:
    228
    Not nearly enough.
    At this time, probably an exercise in utter futility anyway.
     
    THINKBLUE likes this.
  10. fsudog21

    fsudog21 DSP Legend

    Joined:
    Apr 2016
    Messages:
    13,575
    Likes Received:
    15,341
    Trophy Points:
    198
    I hope so.
     
  11. fsudog21

    fsudog21 DSP Legend

    Joined:
    Apr 2016
    Messages:
    13,575
    Likes Received:
    15,341
    Trophy Points:
    198
    Possibly a little of both.
     
    Bluezoo likes this.
  12. LAdiablo

    LAdiablo descarado

    Joined:
    Nov 2011
    Messages:
    30,934
    Likes Received:
    26,653
    Trophy Points:
    1,253
    every liberal will say yes in lockstep
    sort of ignores the fact that the owner of the club where the cop worked for 17 years said they knew each other
    and another guy that worked w them said they "butted heads" but has since recanted undoubtedly under pressure since why would he say it in the first place?
    this is all about promoting the hatred amongst the citizens of this country
    civil war is a small price to regain power and both sides are complicit
    what i wouldn't give for a real journalist to actually ask the questions that should be being asked of the relationship of these men
    if they hated each other it likely has zero to do w race and more to do w hatred
    but who cares we have cities to burn and a country to flip
    too bad people can't see when they're being used
     
    Bluezoo and THINKBLUE like this.
  13. LAdiablo

    LAdiablo descarado

    Joined:
    Nov 2011
    Messages:
    30,934
    Likes Received:
    26,653
    Trophy Points:
    1,253
    because to even question it makes you a racist and who wants to be that?
     
    Bluezoo and THINKBLUE like this.
  14. TAFNAC

    TAFNAC Cossack Staff Member Administrator

    Joined:
    Nov 2011
    Messages:
    4,505
    Likes Received:
    5,043
    Trophy Points:
    163
    I don't think anyone can really know...except maybe hands in his pockets kneel on neck guy.

    I could certainly believe it was due to race, but equally easy for me to accept that it wasn't
     
  15. THINKBLUE

    THINKBLUE DSP Gigolo

    Joined:
    Nov 2011
    Messages:
    42,358
    Likes Received:
    25,240
    Trophy Points:
    228
    Truth over facts and establishment endorsed riots over baseless accusations of systemic racism means good officers who do their job get terminated and charged for murder. Cops will lose their lives and communities will be less safe because the mob decided what the truth is and will destroy you if you even question it. And these mayors and lifer politicians are happy to go along with it because November is right around the corner.

     
  16. rube

    rube DSP Legend Staff Member Moderator

    Joined:
    Nov 2011
    Messages:
    16,400
    Likes Received:
    8,705
    Trophy Points:
    198
    It was personal.
    But if Floyd was not black the cop would not have been so matter of fact while the dude gasped for his final breaths.
    It's just another dead thug.
    White lives are precious.
    White lives have meaning.
    Every entitlement and every credential and every connection white lives have or may achieve is intrinsically valuable.
    Like special draft picks in 2k20, white lives have heigh ceilings to their potential.

    Sure he was a criminal.
    Not all crime is equal.
    Black crimes are always a major deal.
    Crack is evil but cocaine is just a slap in the wrist.
    We all know this.
    Blacks love weed and have always smoked it openly without shame in the streets.
    Not whites. Nor since Hector was a pup.
    Now it's legal.
    It's white.
    Which is what white/purity really is.
    Cleanliness is next to godliness and you can't get cleaner than white.

    If Floyd was white the cops looking on would have intervened.
    If Floyd was white a bystander would have felt confident enough to come to his defense.
    It is very hard for the average white person to feel sympathy for a black criminal who is being arrested.
    If you think that this is racist vs whites you would be correct.
    Many white people do feel sympathy.
    But very few will stick their neck out.
    Same with Mexicans.
    There is a natural antipathy to everything black.
    That is why we never call them negros.
    We say morenos. Because they are moors.
    Whenever a slave was stranded he became a moor.
    A marine
    And like all the myrmidons their tans run deep.
    All the way back to the people of the phoenix who been fighting the black eagle and the dragon with the help of the white buffalo.

    So yeah.
    It's cuz he was black.
    It's cuz it's always been easier to get away with it.
    Happens every day.
    Because black men have a higher criminality percentage than anyone.
    And cops are as lazy as everyone else is now. They let the analytics do the policework for them.
    Data is the new donut they consume that makes them fat minded keystone flatfoots.
    And analytics will always be racist because like with racists the biggest flaw in data is that it does not care about anything that it can't compute.
     
    BlueMouse likes this.
  17. THINKBLUE

    THINKBLUE DSP Gigolo

    Joined:
    Nov 2011
    Messages:
    42,358
    Likes Received:
    25,240
    Trophy Points:
    228
    Solid, entertaining effort as always!
     
    rube likes this.
  18. rube

    rube DSP Legend Staff Member Moderator

    Joined:
    Nov 2011
    Messages:
    16,400
    Likes Received:
    8,705
    Trophy Points:
    198
    I try, I try.
     
  19. LAdiablo

    LAdiablo descarado

    Joined:
    Nov 2011
    Messages:
    30,934
    Likes Received:
    26,653
    Trophy Points:
    1,253
    i'm struck by how they engage this clearly inebriated man when he should have just been under arrest immediately
    dude is clearly high game over
    my guess is liberal policies gave him no option but go full cuck
     
    Finski and THINKBLUE like this.
  20. BlueMouse

    BlueMouse 2020 World Champions

    Joined:
    Nov 2011
    Messages:
    12,445
    Likes Received:
    14,570
    Trophy Points:
    198
    Sure. And it's debatable if the Astros cheating helped them win the 2017 WS.

    The statistics show there are systemic problems facing black people in America. Black men are 5 times more likely to be arrested in their lifetime than white men. Black and Hispanic people are over-represented in prisons by a huge number. The US prison population is ridiculously high in general. Research has been done for 100 years now on how to stop/reduce the problem, and the suggestions are the same every time, but they are largely ignored. Why?

    Systemic racism.
    Cultural racism.
    Historical racism.

    The truth is, I don't know dick about the cop who murdered George Floyd. For all I know, Orlando Hudson could be his favorite baseball player. But damn I find it hard to believe race didn't cross his mind at least once for the 8 minutes he was killing Floyd while other cops and bystanders watched. There must be some reason he thought he could get away with this, some societal reason he thought no one would care.

    Now, as @LAdiablo mentioned before, George Floyd was no saint, and I think that's worth looking at too. But not for the purpose of dismissing this as "a bad cop kills a bad guy", but to ask the questions: Why are black people more likely to break the law? Why are black people more likely to carry weapons? Why are some assholes attracted to being police officers?

    The proposed changes are out there: uplift poor communities, better quality education, more available health care and drug treatment, more available mental health services, take certain police duties (such as drug enforcement, homelessness, and mental health) out of the hands of police officers and move those to people trained in those specific areas, rethink what is criminal and the exploitation power of the justice system (like how @rube talked about crack and cocaine being treated as very different crimes, or the power DA's have in who to prosecute) - help people meet there basic needs and you reduce crime significantly. Reduce crime, keep families together, and you help future generations as well. You don't even have to think of it as a "black thing", as much of the focus is on helping people of lower socioeconomic status. You don't have to think of this as a Republican vs Democrat thing either, as Democrats have fucked this up plenty too. Holding prisoners in detention centers costs the US ~ $200 billion annually, and that bill could be reduced significantly by better services to stop criminality before it happens, which would have a snowball effect on uplifting future generations and saving even more money. But why is no one interested in prison/justice reform? Republicans like saving money. Christians like helping people. Democrats like singing "kumbaya" and patting themselves on the back. But then again, Black and Brown people make up 60% of the prison population, so I mean, who really cares?

    You can disagree with any of this if you want, that's fine. What I don't like about turning this into a "Why was George Floyd really killed?" debate is that I feel like it can too easily distract from the real issues and opportunities ahead. This isn't just about George Floyd. #BLM
     
    rube and Finski like this.

Share This Page