FEDIT POLITICS Thread

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fast food jobs provided some measure of income for low-skilled/entry level employees in need
there are people out there who would gladly take any job
and yet the libs decided they should make more for doing mindless labor
and now instead of making ≈$10/hr for flipping burgers, they'll be out of work
careful what you wish for
they wanted mccdonalds to do something, and they did
happy now?
just sorry for the people out there who were happy with the way things were
collateral damage from the perpetual liberal cry-athon
fucken idiots

 

Is your assertion that there is no upward mobility in the United States? That's patently absurd and not even worth debating.
Minimum wage jobs were never meant to be living wage jobs, or jobs to support a family.
Learn a trade, get an education, learn some skills. That's how you move up.

It's difficult to understand because it is simply not true. If anything, its easier to get out of the bottom quintile than ever before.

http://www.economist.com/news/unite...obile-it-was-generation-ago-mobility-measured

http://www.nationalreview.com/corne...social-mobility-other-countries-scott-winship

US manufacturing output has increased over the last 30 years not decreased. The job loss isn't due to outsourcing(evil corporations!!!), its due to automation. Those jobs are gone and never coming back.
Same thing happened with agriculture. In 1870, almost 50 percent of the US population was employed in agriculture. In of 2008, less than 2 percent of the population is directly employed in agriculture.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agriculture_in_the_United_States
Job markets change, and job seekers must adapt with them.

Once again, simply not true. It tugs at the heartstrings, but it's not true.
There are plenty of tech and IT jobs. And there are still, and for the forseeable future, there will be plenty of jobs in the trades (plumbing, electrical, construction, etc.) The entire economy hasn't been turned into Walmart (Evil Corporations again!!!) greeters.

See the earlier links about social mobility. It's as good or better than it ever has been.

 

That's the best you got? An attack on the source? The national review sourced its numbers from Pew research.
Also sourced the Economist. Or is that not good enough for you either?

Shall I just recount emotional talking points that have no basis in fact?

 

mcdonalds jobs rare not mindless burger flippers anymore
they are factory workers
making factory burgers in an assembly line using factory machines
in n out on the other hand are burger flippers
and they have always paid 11 dollars an hour to start you off since i was a kid
true conservative company, not right wing pseudo conservative panderers.
doing whats right by their workers
you never hear in n out workers protesting or asking for money
true conservative companies dont have these problems
mcdonalds should pay more
but not because anyone forces them to pay more
they just should
like in n out does

 

I once said something here about taking a job as a 'sleazy car salesman' as kinda a joke and someone kinda scolded me a little bit about calling car salesmen sleazy.
But the way i meant it is that its sorta easy money sleazy. To sell a a car you gotta use confidence type tactics. Be a little bit showman a little bit conman. That acting and salesmanship to me is a little demeaning to my humanity.
But you can make good money. And ultimately that is a car salesmans only true motivation. Making fast money without any hard work.

Everyone wants to make big money, drive big cars and have everyone know them as superstars.
Yeah, thats from a song, but its true.
Thats the new american way.
But there is a better way.
Anyone can start a business. You dont need loans. Thats the way of thinking of the new american who thinks money has to be easy.

You can farm. Weed is not the only high paying cash crop in america. And folks in the northern tundra like places in the country are farming exotic tropical fruit under cheap portable car covers built out of PVC pipe and tarps... in the snow.
A little manure goes a long way to keep a tightly wrapped makeshift greenhouse warm enough to cause a tropical effect.
Folks sell organic backyard raised chickens for 20 bucks a pop and sell them online and ship em Fed Ex in 99 center store bags made airtight by submerging them in water till the water pushes out the air and then sealing them with heat before putting them in a carboard box with a little bit of dry ice to keep em from spoiling on the trip to the consumer. Folks pay you 20 lbs for a 4 lb chicken.
You can raise tilapia in cheap above ground pools you can buy at walmart for a couple hundred bucks and watch them multiply fast.
You can raise microgreens where you are harvesting weekly and selling to resturauntaurs who pay top dollar.
Or you can turn your front and back yards into fields of green onions, cilantro, and radishes where you harvest every couple or every few weeks and sell to all the mexican restaurants who cant get enough of this stuff on the daily.
It is easy money. But not easy as in not having to actually do work.

Cheap menial jobs are for those who are either physically or mentally unable to get a degree or get into business for themselves.
And then if that is your lot in life you must learn to be happy with the fact that you even have a job, that this country provides ways for people without much physical skills or mental ability or spiritual will to at least squeeze out somewhat of a living.

Because to make it in america you have to either work hard, work smart, or be a cunning linguist who can get others to spend their money on what you can make, say, or do. AKA a creator/entrepreneur.
If you cant do any of that then be poor materially but be super rich in other ways.
Or else you will be a miserable fuck that wants what you dont got.
And you will never be happy.

 

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Abono.
Its manure.
To plant trees in.
Planting trees is a noble cause.
Someone has to actually dig a hole though.
Anyone can do it but few actually want to do it.
Actually not just anyone can do it, you have to learn how to do it right.
To make trees 5 times faster while providing bumper crops at least twice a year.
Thing about planting trees is that they dont necessarily have to stay where you planted them.
Folks can sponsor the planting of a tree by a homeless man who gets a gift for providing the planting service.
Then that tree can be sold once it reaches a certain number of months for beaucoup bucks to any of the local landscapers.
Who you partner with to allow access to the fruit from said trees to then give to the tree planters or sell to local farmers markets.
Either way you slice the pie everyone gets a cut when you start from manure and it aint sleazy when the money is growing on trees.

 

money dont make you poor
upward mobility has nothing to do with income
before hippies became old liberals they used to say stuff like 'you are a prisoner of your own mind'.
and thats the gods honest truth.

 

the problem isn't mcdonalds
the problem is people wanting more without being willing to do more
wages are [paid] in accordance with the task being performed
has no obligation to exceed whatever the minimum wage/law requires
if someone wants to earn more they should seek employment elsewhere -- like in n out