FEDIT POLITICS Thread

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  1. Bluezoo

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    And did it well, too.
    Multilingually.
     
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    well one of them is choosing not to live in the white house so obviously she is not a peer of an underwear ho
    she played it all the way to the top and educated herself along the way
    scoreboard
     
  3. Bluezoo

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    That's right. One is multilingual, the other multicunnilingual.
    Thank you.
     
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  4. TAFNAC

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    Guess it just goes to show you, no matter how fedit your beginnings, you can still achieve anything.
     
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    Ain't life grand?
     
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    spoken like a true fedituciary
     
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  7. Bluezoo

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    Don't be silly
    Be a schmarty
    Come und join
    The Fedit Party

    Put Your Trust in the Fedit Union
     
  8. LAdiablo

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    no shit sherlock
    more proof the left has zero understanding of economics




    "Thanks To #fightfor15 Min Wage, McDonald's Unveils Job-Replacing Self-Service Kiosks Nationwide"

    Thursday, December 1, 2016
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    By Forbes, Nov. 29, 2016

    As the labor union-backed Fight for $15 begins yet another nationwide strike on November 29, I have a simple message for the protest organizers and the reporters covering them: I told you so.

    It brings me no joy to write these words. The push for a $15 starter wage has negatively impacted the career prospects of employees who were just getting started in the workforce while extinguishing the businesses that employed them. I wish it were not so. But it’s important to document these consequences, lest policymakers elsewhere decide that the $15 movement is worth embracing.
     
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    ill drink to that

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    Just wondering Diablo, what is your solution? You know as well as anyone that cost of living seems to rise every year, even in cases of low inflation, which by the way does not include housing costs....which is out of control in many areas, what would you want?

    $5.00 per hour min wage? Forever? Do you think McDonalds would put in self service kiosks if it meant another $.50 per share profit on their next 10k?

    I'm not sure if you are saying $15 per hour is just not the answer and there is a solution, or you are just complaining about $15 an hour.

    Okay, and then get rid of ACA....now all these people end up in the emergency room for basic care.....the worst efficiency for benefits.

    So what is your solution?
     
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    http://www.nbcnews.com/news/militar...es-officer-gen-mad-dog-mattis-left-my-n691211

    So Trumps pick for defense is someone who refused to offer rescue to a group of Green Berets that were attacked in a case of friendly fire when his choppers were only 45 minutes away. Several Green Berets died on route when a special forces base in Pakistan had to be called for relief hours away. This base responded immediately based on the same information when Mattis refused.

    Later Mattis reprimanded and relieved a commander for doing the same thing he did. What a hypocrite.

    And yet we spent countless months and excoriated Hillary Clinton....who was not a military officer....for Benghazi? Double standard.
     
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    i respect your response and wish i had a way to employ and take care of everyone in the world but I don't and neither do you
    My point is this is NOT the way to do it and the response was predictable because many here said this is exactly what would happen
    The FF jobs were starter jobs until liberals decided they should be a job to sustain a life style
    These are part time more or less mindless worker bee jobs that anyone can do
    I know its not a popular theme but life requires work and hard work at that. continuously.
    The idea behind America always was you are given an opportunity to improve your life and that is not a guarantee
    I was taught to work hard, save money, invest and deny myself as much as possible
    That is sort of a core tenant of my family and then suddenly I have too much and need to give it away
    I am totally sympathetic to people on the streets and the plight of the poor in fact I see myself wanting to get more involved than ever
    Not going to talk about what I do or what I am planning to do until I really have something to be proud of besides throwing money at it
    But to think you can control the plight of the under educated and poor by artificially raising wages is utter foolishness
     
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    this
    fast food jobs provided some measure of income for low-skilled/entry level employees in need
    there are people out there who would gladly take any job
    and yet the libs decided they should make more for doing mindless labor
    and now instead of making ≈$10/hr for flipping burgers, they'll be out of work
    careful what you wish for
    they wanted mccdonalds to do something, and they did
    happy now?
    just sorry for the people out there who were happy with the way things were
    collateral damage from the perpetual liberal cry-athon
    fucken idiots
     
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    Okay, if that is your argument...what avenues fir upward mobility to these people have? Start their own businesses? With what? A loan from Wells Fargo? Help from non-existent friends?

    The America you are talking about does NOT EXIST ANYMORE! Why is that so difficult to understand?

    The factory jobs and manufacturing jobs that allowed that chance to move into the middle class, get healthcare and pensions are GONE! They were offshored when corporations realized they can make iPhones for 60% profit margins by sending them to China....or do engineering in India.

    If you've read the papers in the last 30 years you will notice thag we have replaced manufacturing with "service" jobs....and they don't mean everyone has become doctors, lawyers and MBA's. It means the only jobs remaining are being greeters at Walmart or burger flippers at McDonalds or even worse, working for that asshole at Papa Johns who said ACA would cause him to fire workers while he built a mansion in Florida with its own golf course.

    This isnt right. Not everyone wins the lottery. And in this environment....you either win the lottery, or you are stuck in hell. The "middle" is being eaten away..
     
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    thats why i voted Trump and hope he truly can bring back jobs to this country
    he just managed to keep carrier in indiana and ford in kentucky before taking office
    i have never agreed w shipping manufacturing jobs abroad in that whole "new world order" globalization bullshit
    we need to make things here and have our government make profitability possible
    might even decide to teach shop in schools again for those who don't have the same opportunities
    then they save, invest etc and the next generation does better
    that WAS the american way
     
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    Is your assertion that there is no upward mobility in the United States? That's patently absurd and not even worth debating.
    Minimum wage jobs were never meant to be living wage jobs, or jobs to support a family.
    Learn a trade, get an education, learn some skills. That's how you move up.


    It's difficult to understand because it is simply not true. If anything, its easier to get out of the bottom quintile than ever before.
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    http://www.economist.com/news/unite...obile-it-was-generation-ago-mobility-measured
    http://www.nationalreview.com/corne...social-mobility-other-countries-scott-winship


    US manufacturing output has increased over the last 30 years not decreased. The job loss isn't due to outsourcing(evil corporations!!!), its due to automation. Those jobs are gone and never coming back.
    Same thing happened with agriculture. In 1870, almost 50 percent of the US population was employed in agriculture. In of 2008, less than 2 percent of the population is directly employed in agriculture.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agriculture_in_the_United_States
    Job markets change, and job seekers must adapt with them.


    Once again, simply not true. It tugs at the heartstrings, but it's not true.
    There are plenty of tech and IT jobs. And there are still, and for the forseeable future, there will be plenty of jobs in the trades (plumbing, electrical, construction, etc.) The entire economy hasn't been turned into Walmart (Evil Corporations again!!!) greeters.

    See the earlier links about social mobility. It's as good or better than it ever has been.
     
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    Your sourcd is the actual National Freakin Review?? Wow, no conflict of interest there....the publication that thought William F Buckley's son wasnt conervative enough to be the editor.
     
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    That's the best you got? An attack on the source? The national review sourced its numbers from Pew research.
    Also sourced the Economist. Or is that not good enough for you either?

    Shall I just recount emotional talking points that have no basis in fact?
     
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    A more objective source from Harvard

    http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2014/03/03/the-mobility-myth

    70 percent of those who are poor never make it to middle class. 20% of the top quintile of the middle class only make it to the top 1%.

    This was not the case 30-40 years ago.....notice how that coincides with the Nixon and Reagan eras.

    Even in places like San Jose, only 13% in the bottom quintile ever reach the top. In places like Mississippi, the upward mobility rate is some of the worst in the world.
     
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    No, you just live in that bubble where you just read what agrees with you. Expand alittle...or maybe try working as a burger flipper and see how upwardly mobile you are with that on your resume.
     

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