San Francisco Giants at Los Angeles Dodgers Game Thread (June 24 - 26)

Discussion in 'Los Angeles DODGERS' started by MZA, Jun 24, 2013.

  1. 4everblue

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    His error was not sending League, but pulling Fife. There he burned JP for the bottom of the order. If he didnt played that old crappy "lefty-lefty matchup" thing, maybe he can send JP fully warmed up for the 8th and Belisario for the 9th (and it speaks volumes to claim for Beli over League).

    His error was burning unnecessary arms when he knew that Jansen was a no go. The game was 6-3 and Fife was not looking bad. With an extra fresh arm in the bp he could have pulled League after the first hard hit double.
     
  2. IBleedBlue15

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    Fordie, I know you've been around the game more than almost everyone here, but now is not a time to defend Brandon. Wait a couple days at the very least. Lol.

    Let's just enjoy the win brothers and keep kicking ass!
     
  3. iggypop123

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    that was a hanger by paco, but scuttaro didnt have the roids to help hit it out
     
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    You're right, he is getting paid to pitch. Problem is, he doesn't know how to pitch. Why is it that someone who comes in and consistently blows leads deserve to pitch just because he's getting paid? No-one asked for Ned to pay him 3 yrs/22 mil. He's a fucking moron.

    Paco is 10x the pitcher League is, and if not Paco, put in Moylan who has a career 2.5 ERA. Don handled this situation fucking terribly. League obviously didn't know where the ball was going as soon as it left his hand. Instead of stalling for Paco after the 1st run was given up, he gave him another chance. What happens? He gives up another run.

    There's a bigger chance League goes on the 60 day DL to "get right", and even if does, no way he takes the closer job from Kenley. That is fucking laughable. The only reason why Kenley couldn't hold his job as a closer is because of health reasons, not because he sucks dick for a living on the mound. Otherwise, Kenley is fucking fantastic and one of the best closers in the game.
     
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    I mean, at the same time, maybe if JP wasn't pitching like a pussy he would've gotten out of that inning faster...
     
  6. C2ThaB81

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    There's a reason why league was removed from the closers spot....because he can't close. Shouldn't be on the mound in a save situation.
     
  7. LAFord

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    I'm not defending Brandon. I'm being realistic is all. I am defending Donny. We won, fuck it...but these posts from dreamland have to be dealt with.
     
  8. iggypop123

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    league needs his confidence to get built up again. you do not use him to close a game period. only in a desperate situation, and this wanst an extra innings game. bring him in only on blowouts, use those extra days he does nothing to build up mechanics from scratch.
     
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    Agree on that one. If he's on the team, he needs to play, just on the right situations. You would think a 3 run lead could be the right situation but League just pushed himself further away from the back of the bp, almost reaching the innings mopping role.
     
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    I didn't have too much of a problem with it since it was a 3 run lead, but at least we still won and he knows next time that no lead is safe.
     
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    He's been struggling for the whole season, and blew how many leads already?

    Greinke has room to talk, I don't know what the fuck you're saying, but he doesn't blow every lead he's given. Greinke is coming off an injury, and is still pitching above average. What's Brandon's excuse?
     
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    Agree, but anyway an unnecessary pitching change. Its impossible to predict how things would have gone, but that change right there was classic DBB over managing.
     
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    Probably, but it still worked out because he got out of the inning clean.
     
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    This is a great argument and I agree. I wasn't online at the time but I didn't like the move either. I'd rather fife get that final out with nobody on. Honestly though, Howell wouldn't have been any better from what he showed. he really was terrible tonight. normally, howell gets that 1st batter, he's one of our better guys....so the move looked bad ONLY because he failed. He probably would've pitched the next inning, but you all don't look at things like that...do you?

    Yes...exactly. Thanks for thinking before posting...a nice concept I'd like to see more of.
    And the same can be said about Jansen. he's lost the job how many times? 3-4x at least.
    And the same can be said about Beli in the setup role.
    He can close...just not lately.
    He is struggling, got it. He is terrible, got it. He cannot blow a 3 run lead if he is givin a short leash. Don got that and took care of it, unlike in the past when it was "his game to lose" Bullshit.
     
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    I'm sorry, Fordie, I like you as a poster, but what part of Don didn't handle this situation well don't you understand? I mean, a loaf of bread would have put in Paco after League gave up 2 runs.
     
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    Hasn't he been doing that? He's made a few meaningless appearances and done ok. He needs some pressure too, it was the next step. It was a step up to a little bit of presssure. A 3run lead save was a good step up but he fell and ate shit! It didn't cost the game, don didn't let it. Now if Paco blows it, well that's on Paco really....but the kid did ok.
     
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    The 9th inning? None of it...he handled it perfectly...well as good as possible without a crystal ball or hindsight like we have now.
    So Don is at least as good as a loaf of bread. Check....we agree.
    Would a loaf of bread have Paco ready to come in on time? Well I know Don wouldn't and hasn't many times in the past.
     
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    Every closer struggles at some point or another unless your name is Rivera or a roided gagne. League has been awful all year. I know he can close and has nasty stuff when he's on but problem is none of his stuff is on right now. He should be nowhere near a mound in a 3 run or less game. He should be in mop up games until he finds his stuff again. That's all I'm saying.
     
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    If he handled it perfectly, he would have stalled for Paco after League gave up a run and with a person on 2nd. I alreadly mentioned this. League blowing leads is not a rare occurrence. Mattingly would've known that if he was competent manager.
     
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    IS THERE NO ONE ELSE?
    IS THERE NO ONE ELSE?

     

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