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If the Dodgers could acquire one player at the deadline, who would you prefer?

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  2. Front line starter (degrom, thor, et al)

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  1. Chiefdodgerslkrs24

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    When Puig and Joc collided there wasn't anything to say..nobody's calling off anybody in that situation because nobody had it. The ball was hit in perfect position in the gap and neither guy was in position, both were sprinting and focusing on trying to make the play. That happens in baseball sometimes. That was nobody's fault.

    However, what I'm talking about has nothing to do with that play. What I'm talking about has to do with all the near collisions where guys are calling Puig off on balls where they are in position to make a play and Puig bolts in, charging through their zone anyway. We already did this..told you then.
     
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    Rockies have some big money to hand out over the next couple years
    Blackmon is 31-32, so he should maybe try and get something now instead of waiting on FA after next season
    Grab a cool 4yr deal worth 80-90M and stay in Denver..ROX will probably try and short him though for stepping to the table early.
     
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    at the very least it didn't help
     
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    irish DSP Staff Member Administrator

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    they're just posturing, trying to get him to give in
    he should call their bluff and say "fine, whatever"
    they'll still want to get rid of that payroll and the longer they have to pay, the more their leverage decreases
     
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    Kaz Ishii agrees with this.
     
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    I've said this before, but watch out for the Rockies organization in the coming years. Denver and the metro area is growing with some serious cash flowing in. Coors was on the northeastern edge of downtown when it was built, but now is firmly entrenched within a district of luxury high rises and the shititest neighborhood in the city that butted up to the east is now $700K+ for an 1,800 sq ft 3 bed/2 bath AND you're not getting shot at. The northern region of the state is finally filling in between Denver and Fort Collins which has allowed for a whole new wave of people to get to Downtown in 30 minutes or less for a game. The general population is surging and major corporations are moving headquarters to the area. It is still a long shot for sure, but if Amazon HQ2 does in fact choose Denver, which my contacts are telling me is higher than most people tend to think, then the Rockies will become a team that could routinely come in around the $180M mark payroll wise as they will be netting serious bucks for their luxury suites AND their 2020 TV contract(which is HORRIBLE right now) will continue to grow with every home that is built and there are a lot of them on the books.
    The Rockies have about $50M on the books for next season, so it will be interesting to see what they do in regards to Blackmon and how they go about this offseason. Man, that Desmond deal looks dumber and dumber by the day. So short sighted. If I were them, I would try to land Santana, re-sigh Blackmon and explore trading LeMahieu if anyone would be willing to give up anything decent for him. They are dangerous if they can keep Arenado and Blackmon around. They have some good bats on the way and we saw what their young arms can do.
     
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    another thing on the marlins threatening stanton...
    if you gave him a full no-trade clause, who's fault is it?
    and why would you expect him not to use it?
    like i said before, marlins trying to bully him into accepting their terms
    he should tell them to fuck off and get the players union involved
    marlins have always been a joke organization and jeter & co seem intent on continuing that tradition
    idiots
     
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    I would call the bluff.
    With all those millions Stanton could be the antihero of Miami. He should go all Barry on the media over there too.
     
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    So this is also something that is not being talked about THAT much. After the word came out that the Rays had no intention to move Archer, out came a report that they are open for business and would consider moving him. Word now is that the team is looking to trim payroll and get under $80M at the least, as it stands right now they are projected at $83M. My guess is if they are saying they want to trim payroll, it is not going to be a measly $3M and they are looking to do something much more drastic. If Wilson Ramos becomes available, it could muddy the waters somewhat on what the club could get in return for Grandal. He got off to a slow start, but had a strong finish which could give teams hope that he could get his bat back to where it was pre-injury. Still may not net the Rays a huge return, but that would be something to watch if Grandal's name starts to float around.
     
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    Absolutely an attempt at gaining some leverage against Stanton, but I can't really blame the Marlins either because it's damn near their only play as far as trying not to look like losers here.
    To be fair, this isn't the Miami FO that gave him the full no trade clause, so they're going kicking and screaming here..but make no mistake, they're going.
    Because the player has already stated that he doesn't want to be a part of another rebuild and so that's damning to him returning to play for that city/org.
    Nobody wants their best player to not want to be on the team he's playing for.
    Stanton should sit tight..Jeter be damned because, granted, Jeter's always been great at handling the media and sticky situations, but nah.
    It's his 1st foray into MLB FO life..you can't bring a player of Stanton's stature back when he doesn't want to be there and maneuver through that sludge.
     
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    It's definitely a football town 1st and so the Broncos are king there, but yeah, Denver's on the rise on multiple fronts. Should be interesting to see where CarGo lands this offseason..hopefully not to some winning team that revives him
     
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    I agree with you.....Ohtani is not a proven commodity at all either with the batting or pitching at the MLB level. As I've said bef seeore, he's becoming the Lonzo Ball of baseball.

    It's hard enough to adjust to major league hitting as a pitcher.....but to also need to learn to bat against major league pitching at the same time....there's not enough time in the day.

    That being said between a choice of re-signing Darvish or going after Arrieta or Archer, Ohtani might be a better bargain.

    It's going to be interesting.

    BTW, the Japan league uses the hell out of its pitchers. How much pitching does he have left on that arm? Could be his hitting is his MLB safety net.
     
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    To be fair, it wasn't Jeter's group that gave him that contract....it was that shiester ownership group before him.

    Just assuming because I'm not privy to what went on, but when you acquire a business and you do due diligence, you spot those risks and liabilities and try to negotiate in a way that reduces the risk, transfers the risk to the seller (if you are the buyer), or if you have no leverage, just accept or share the risk.

    I'd Jeter had smart advisors, they would have seen this issue from a mile away. I think they are working down their contingency plans step by step....plan A, plan B, plan C...etc.

    They seem to be on plan G or whatever. They don't have to do anything with Stanton.....they can sell off all the other assets and tell Stanton to suffer for 7 years because they can tank and tank and get draft picks for that period.
     
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    Loria gave him that, not current regime. But Jeter and co is naive if they think they can threaten him like that.
     
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    I’ve wanted this guy to be a Dodger for like 5 years. He might not have proven himself (yet), but he costs a 20 million dollar posting fee and a minor league contract. You’d be stupid not to go after him. The guy literally lived in a dorm on the site of where Nippon played instead of living off site In a Home. He sent all of his money to his parents. The guy cares about 100% baseball all the time. He’s also only 23 and throws 102 mph. If anyone can pull it off, it’s him. Ps the only problem with Lonzo is his father that won’t shut up
     
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    To be fair, Jeter's group bought Stanton's contract when they bought the team. So they need to own it, and making threats is a dick move no matter what. I don't get the threat either, if they trade all the other players around Stanton then it makes even more sense to trade Stanton too.
     
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    This was a pretty great news leak, IMO. Now that Jeter and his group look like dicks for trying to throw their weight around, Stanton can shoot some return fire and use his power without the PR backlash. Fuck it. War is war. And the worse things get, the less likely it is that they can even begin to think about bringing him back. It was already a no go anyway, though, TBT.
     
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    i know it wasn't jeter et al that gave stanton the contract
    but they bought the product and knew very well what they were inheriting
    and if they think they can force stanton's hand they're delusional

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    and apparently the marlins told stanton this in october, so it doesn't appear to have affected him at all

    "According to two sources with knowledge of discussions, the Marlins informed Stanton in October that if he refused to waive his no-trade rights and accept a trade, he would remain a Marlin and team officials would look to trade off other top players to reduce payroll."​

    link
     
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    apparently they told him in Oct but an absolutely foolish thing to insinuate
    how well do they think he would perform while collecting that contract?
    if thats the intellect of jeter and his people the marlins are gonna flounder a while longer
    almost the only chance they had was NOT to threaten the guy
    i know its a stupid question but can the Dodgers talk to stanton during this process?
     
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