DODGERS NEWS/RUMORS thread

Boom

 

That wasn't about politics, it was about being a whiny bKitch, ad nauseam, like the tireless followers of an unmentionable.

Sis boom bah!

 

Are pods involved?

 

locusts...or worse the taxman

 

• From Rosenthal “#Indians, #Dodgers engaged in “lots of different discussions,” sources tell The Athletic. LA likes CLE SPs and C Yan Gomes also would fit. CLE needs OFers; LAD has Pederson, Puig, Verdugo, plus young catching. Both clubs also talking to others. LAD in mix for #Marlins’ Realmuto.” Man, I wonder who may have saw that coming.......

• Friedman did an interview tonight saying that we should see coaching announcements next week and that the Roberts talks stalled after all the movement. Both sides agreed to return to negotiations after things settle down.

• The Dodgers added Ruiz, Alvarez, Rios, Beaty and Sborz to the 40 man. Interesting that the two MLB ready bats that they added are basically 1B only with weak 3B D. DFA’d Goeddel, Rosscup, Locastro and released Koehler.

 

God dammit, that dweeb Tomlinson signed with the fucking D’Backs. Another year of that punchable face in the NL West.

 

I would laugh if they traded for Carrasco (Kluber is possible, but less likely in my mind) and Yan Gomes, and then flip Alex Wood for bullpen help or in the infield.

 

Damn I would be pumped if we got Carrasco. Verdugo has to be involved right? They have no OFers.

 

I would think so, wouldn't surprise me to see 2 OFs as the principal pieces (Joc as the likely other) in a potential deal.

 

I would happily take Kluber or Carrasco to offset all the lefties we got and a giant "fuck no!" to Trevor Bauer. The Dodgers interest in the Indians pitching staff is interesting with the amount of depth and financials the club has dedicated to our own rotation already. Not to mention the club being rumored to be concentrating more on the BP and C position early on. Adding someone of this type of caliber means at the least, Wood is gone and probably another guy or two on top of that. Feel like any deal for a rotation piece with the Indians(or anyone else for that matter) would be a domino effect into a much much busier offseason. Would hope that Verdugo would not be in a deal to Cleveland, but seems like he would probably need to be. There have been rumors for a bit that the Indians really like Joc, so maybe he could be some sort of centerpiece going back along with a Smith or someone of that caliber and not Verdugo. Don't think there is much of a chance of that though as the the Indians are said to be very hard to work with as they have lofty return prices and don't budge on them.

 

I think you’d be crazy to think we can get Kluber or Carrasco without including Verdugo

 

Great. We get SP (which we don't need) in exchange for someone who can actually put his bat on the ball. Not saying it'd be a bad trade. But if they don't sign an outfielder who can actually hit I will be disappointed.

 

It is really not that crazy to think it could happen with the way our FO operates plus the types of pieces that we have and can move in separate deals to land more trade chips. Unlikely? Sure. Impossible? No. Verdugo looks like a potential good MLB'er, but he also doesn't look like a star in the making which could mean that there may be other options in the system to move in such a deal(unless of course the Indians do view Alex as a potential star). I think the part where the Indians want to still win now, ditch some payroll and get some decent prospects works to the Dodgers advantage somewhat as they can give them impact bats back in Puig or the more likely Joc and still have some other intriguing specs on the farm. Including guys like Toles and Stripling in a deal who have shown damn good MLB upside could also allow the Dodgers to tag on prospects that may be a couple more years away, but higher upside.

The thing is, if the Dodgers were to land say a Kluber or Carrasco + Gomes, I think that would mean that they are probably about to push their chips to the center of the table and go for this thing, so a guy like Verdugo could become unnecessary. Who knows what they will do, but this is an intriguing discussion.

 

Verdugo is expendable with Bellinger moving to the OF for the foreseeable future and the signing of Harper.

 

So I am over analyzing the moves that were made yesterday as something has piqued my curiosity. As a refresher, the Dodgers added relievers Josh Sborz and Yadier Alvarez, catcher Keibert Ruiz and CIF's Matt Beaty and Edwin Rios. In turn they chose not to protect a small group of prospects including #19 prospect Drew Jackson UTL, #24 Cristian Santana 3B, #29 Andrew Sopko RHP and the unranked yet intriguing arm of Stetson Allie RHP. The club also DFA'd a couple of guys including super utility Tim Locastro while holding onto players that have been viewed as expendable in JT Chargois, Josh Fields, Yimi Garcia and Pat Venditte.

Here is why this is interesting to me and what I think it could mean. Locastro and Drew Jackson were basically #'s 3 and 4 on the team's super utility depth chart behind Enrique Hernandez and Chris Taylor with each being average to above average defensively at multiple positions. For a team that values versatility, they now have potentially lost the 2 players closest to being MLB ready that are cheap and appear to be very capable of being valuable 25th guys at least at the end of the bench. In turn, the FO decided to protect two bat first prospects in Rios and Beaty. Rios is viewed as a 1B/DH and Beaty defensively is comparable to Max Muncy where he can play multiple positions, but is probably best served at 1B where he is capable and not outstanding. So they just added two guys that are conceivably blocked by Muncy, Cody Bellinger and David Freese. Oh... they're also both left handed and yes they both have had some big platoon splits in their careers.

What I think this means is that the Dodgers are considering moving Max Muncy in an attempt to lessen a prospect package in a trade for other pieces(Indians come to mind). I think they may see some signs that this year was more of a fluke and that they have some guys that will likely replicate his output long term. Rios has hit at every level and had turned a lot of heads in ST before an injury. I may be crazy and it is still only November 21st, but the current alignment of the Dodgers position players on the 40 man has me thinking something we may not have considered is being looked at by the FO.

 

i think if there is a chance to get Thor it would be foolish not to try
and i agree that Muncy should be very tradable and at the height of his value