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Discussion in 'Los Angeles DODGERS' started by CapnTreee, Aug 12, 2016.

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  1. rube

    rube DSP Legend Staff Member Moderator

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    Breitbart had nothing to do with the subject.
    Maybe if you were not what you accuse Darth of being you would not have lost sight of the point and changed the subject to Breitbart.
    The subject is that the rail line is not feasible without way more money and a huge amount of red tape.
    That fly over 'farmland' that you talk about is owned by the type of people who are least likely to accept a payout to sell their land. Most will need to be forced out. And it does harm to many ecological zones that will be forever disrupted. We are talking about not just water flow but animal feeding/mating migrating paths. Talk about starving the beast... you will if you cut off its access to what it needs.
    Then cattle ranchers will have a field day as they need the long open land to run their cattle all over the state so they can graze.
    Now these are 'left' issues in the stupid doctrine of dualism that we and every other culture/religion thats ever existed holds dear.
     
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  2. CapnTreee

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    Umm yeah that was the news.. did I not confirm that already?

    Her husband has a long history of benefiting from her inside knowledge. Not really so much news. Dem gubberment is nearly as corrupt as the GOP. OK not really but.

    OTOH your cited sources "wow".. do YOU really believe this?

    http://www.capoliticalreview.com/blog/sen-diane-feinsteins-husband-wins-ca-rail-contract/ "High on Crack Speed Rail Authority" "stop staring at the screen, its true" - not the faintest hint of impartiality.

    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog...llar_california_high_speed_rail_contract.html "Corruptifornia", "Crazifornia", "High on Crack Speed Rail Authority", - same bias, same absence of other data, to its credit issued correction that story was false. So thanks for quoting these now corrected parrot nutjobs.

    http://calwatchdog.com/2013/04/26/se-diane-feinsteins-husband-wins-ca-rail-contract/ almost verbatim of the first story. No new data. Identical sentences indicate that neither/none of your "sources" actually wrote any of this. It's a script. You bought it.

    https://ihavethetruth.com/2015/03/1...nne-feinsteins-husband-wins-ca-rail-contract/ - no article at all. Merely a cut and paste of the first story.

    http://crazifornia.com/2013/04/16/dirty-business-as-usual-at-california-high-speed-rail/ why am I bothering? "Crazifornia" Do YOU really believe this is news?

    http://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-co...california-contract-35m-per-mile-2628006.html the best link that you included a it provide a nice story rather than an oft repeated sound bite. Of course the story was about New York catching someone else other than her husband at corruption but at least there was news. Semi related but still news. Of course since I started by agreeing that Feinstein and EVERYTHING about her is already corrupt that wasn't really part of the news.


    Was it?
     
  3. CapnTreee

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    Wow Rube nicely done.

    You've managed to overlay your own agenda while concurrently accusing me of the same.

    My agenda is "Make America Great Again" and start by not living in the 19th century. Argue that again.

    But you won't. You're argument will remain protection of the natives. Which is sweet and nice ... and wholly irrelevent. Have you learned it was planned to be elevated above ground so as to not disturb crops, livestock, local traffic etc.

    No ecological zones get "forever disrupted". No cattle ranges gets interupted unless its by the trains going by. When I rode in Germany the cows didn't even look up. Non issue. Quite making reasons to stay behind, that's not how it works and you know it better than most. Some of the working high speed rail systems are pushing 50 years of productivity.. that America is losing.


    We'll fully agree about the "stupid doctrine of dualism" but interpretations may vary as it pertains to the high speed rail story
     
  4. darth550

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    Where there's smoke, there's fire. Do you really think corruption at this level is simple to pull off?
    They know what they're doing. Why do you think most politicians still walk around as free people?

    How about the Zika BS in Florida with the Scott's and the mosquito spraying contract? If you want to be a contrarian just for the sake of arguing on TeH IntARweBz than have at it... :) When people in power have the opportunity to ingest tens of millions and in some cases billions, you don't think they're gonna take it? Puhleeese, human beings are not as civilized as we fancy ourselves to be and greed is a very powerful character trait.
     
  5. CapnTreee

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    We aren't talking about smoke and fire. We're already in complete agreement on that aspect. IMO every single one of the 535 in DC is corrupt with the lone exception of socialist Elizabeth Warren.

    All of them. We're saying the same thing about corruption in politics.

    Do any of us dispute that events happen and official gubberment channels say otherwise? How naive is anyone? Not so much. I think the gubberments hand of lies is playing out tenuously. Fuck them. We agree that gubberment greed is systemic, everyone there is present to profit themselves at some point. Feinstein is a fine example of open larceny but by no means the only example. No one is disputing this.

    I simply favor infrastructure that helps us compete this century or next. 20 years ago I rode on glass at 3X the speed of anything in America. 20 years ago! Make America Great Again starts with infrastructure not rickety 1880's rail tech.

    Arguing cost per mile for changing history is like arguing against laying fiber cable because we don't yet need the bandwidth. You're ahead or behind.
     
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    Not my agenda at all. I think you must not live here or something. In this state all that ecological wetland and other special wildlife areas are highly protected. The environmental impact is still severe even if the thing is up in the air.
    Not my agenda at all, but left wing california. Im all for using our money if it is to be used on some bullshit to be one some cool bullshit like a super tram.
     
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    I agree that we need more infrastructure but remember, it's Brown who held up (then) futuristic mass transit measures in favor of gophers back in the day so ram-rodding a budget killing, scandalous swindle of a cluster fuck down our collective throats to re-write his legacy now as a "Monument to myself" ain't the way to go, IMO.
     
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    of course warren is cloaked in white lmfao
     
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    wait this should be in the political OT
    we need a power tripping mod
     
  10. BlueMouse

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    :shrug:
     
  11. CapnTreee

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    laugh your fool ass off but I'm not reading/seeing/hearing ANYONE in DC say that she's wrong


    just that you don't like her
    because she's not corrupt like the other 534
     
  12. Bluezoo

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    She speaks with split tongue, too...too much pipe smoke for you, I think.
     
  13. CapnTreee

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    Yeah show me.

    I'm not seeing it. No impartial evidence that I've seen supports your view. None.

    She's the ONLY one standing up for consumers with the CFPB
    Why in the hell are the other 534 NOT looking out for consumers?

    OK the GOP openly says Fuck Americans, all money and power belongs to corporations
    large enough to shelter billions offshore so as to never pay taxes
    on the services they consume

    but where are the other whiny Dems?

    also paid off... but by liberal corporations
    thus they too display zero ethics nor concern for Americans
     
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    I'm not going to have a running back and forth with you, as you had before with Irish and Rube for instance...but my initial reaction to your response is...lol.
    She is just as fucked up as anyone else you are going at...and a man of your intelligence actually elevating the likes of her to the status you have is as much a mystery as Utley's trance-like state on strike three lately.
    But Warren? You mean the one that registered herself as a " person of color" , being Cherokee...when she's not at all? And when questioned about how she registered, refused outright to show the forms? Check with the Cherokee Tribal Council...see what they think about that fraud.
    Warren? The one that made a shitload of money on foreclosures while defending "the people" as the mortgage fraud czarina?
    Liz? The one that practiced law without a license? Lol
    Warren? The one that defended Traveler's Ins.Co., and refused to release the money to the workers ( your people, right?) who were dropping like flies with asbestos poisoning? And most sickening of all about her, justified it with " it was insurance company against insurance company". Fucking evil, man... That Elizabeth Warren?
    I could go on, but with all due respect, based on past skirmishes I've read with others, I think once you've made up your mind, it stays so.
    And I don't have need to be right surely, but responded because you sort of requested it. I'm not defending he "other side", believe me...it's not a comparison thing at all. But in essence, she rises above no one, but wallows comfortably with all the other bottom feeders, whether it be a D or an R after their name.
    But a false idol is a false idol, from whichever way it comes.
    As I wrote, she speaks with a split tongue.
     
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    An extra "like" from me on your last paragraph.
    Good show.
     
  16. CapnTreee

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    Thank you for your reasoned reply. I'm too tired of all things fetid politics (wrong thread). My mind is not so made up, I just keep reading news from many sources and ALL confirm that she is the one promoting the CFPB. That is important.

    I too am in full agreement with most everything you're saying.. and yet still she gets elevated because she is the only one even bothering to make an effort to speak out in favor of citizens rights.

    I had no idea about the attorney part but with your prompting above I've now read she's been an attorney in Texas and New Jersey, and submitted briefs to federal courts. And that some other attorney has claimed she used the wrong address on a Supreme court filing. Maybe. The Supreme court didn't think it was an issue but this other MA. lawyer sure does. I'm no lawyer but the internet shows that lots of attorneys have since weighed in on this on both sides and they say filing a brief is not practicing law, teaching law is not practicing law and she's still there so ?? I dunno. I don't care that much but you're claims appear with some bias as well. It's all good.

    Still BZ, we agree, she's a Senator, a politican, liberal arts law professor, apparently an attorney and likely guilty of everything else you say. I'm not going to look it all up to debate

    She's still the only one arguing for the CFPB to corral banks and insurance companies. Fact. Why is that? Where the fuck is Dem libtard sellout from CA Feinstein? Obviously too busy funneling coin to her hubby? Where is the CFPB support from YOUR Senator BZ?

    The CFPB is the agency that caught Wells Fargo churning accounts costing 2 million+ account holders.

    My disgust is DC being run openly by corporations and the GOP Chamber of Commerce. All 535 are are guilty to one degree or another of sucking at the corporate tit for funding. Got to get the money out of politics, put the ethics back in.
     
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    My senator is the biggest scumbag walking,but he is Hispanic, so he gets many a pass, on many a trespass, so what does it mean then? I'm responsible for what this scumbag does because I'm a Jersey boy ?
    Shoo be do bop do wah...
    But he did tell my mom she was beautiful and looked great and would never take her for her age at the time...so guess who my mom voted for?
    We're all going to hell in a handbasket Cap'n, so I shoot for what that guy from Liverpool used to sing, " A working class hero is something to be".
    That's all.
     
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    i used to drop by her show on msnbc occasionally to see the libs perspective
    didn't agree with all she said but i found her funny, intelligent and [somewhat] tolerable
    but ever since trump won she's lost her shit
    lost a lot of respect for her
     
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    you're not wrong
    and they all possess an ivory tower mentality
    wasn't praising her by any means
    was just giving her a brief snippet of credit to put into perspective how far she's she fallen
    and to be fair o'reilly & co are just as bad
     
  20. CapnTreee

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    Just as bad... sort of like comparing different cancers
     
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