GAME THREAD DODGERS vs REDS

Hmmm...amazing how Cueto is pitching like he is, but so many are glad we don't have him because of personal dislike reasons...and injuries being used as one reason for the dislike, preferring a staff with a firmly established history of injuries, and multiple individuals on the DL now...head scratching, really.
Of course, no one can predict a pitcher's success, but the fact that Cueto has established himself as one of the very best using the Sabr numbers is a pretty good indicator.
And the choke thing criteria is kinda hipocrisy, imo, when we have the epitome of that as our number one, unfortunately...but it is what it is.

 

It's probably better that we didn't sign him though...as soon as he has a rough patch, the booger eating thing would be front and center...I know I would.
Disgusting.
Can't have that on the team, no way.
The Nerds were right with this omission...clever stuff.

 

I'm not glad we don't have him. I just know injury risk is what was being reported as the problem with Cueto for all teams interested. And it must be substantial risk looking at the contract he received compared to Greinke and Price, when Cueto is statistically in the same ballpark as those guys or at least close. As a fan, injury-risk is something hard to gauge. We don't have the information these 30 teams are looking at. If Cueto pitches like this without injury for his whole contract, then 29 teams screwed up, plain and simple. Of course the problem is if we keep signing guys who get hurt, and they keep signing guys who don't, at a certain point it's us. It has to be. Whatever they are doing (legal or not) appears to be working.

 

The difference is the the glass-made guys the Fucktards paid 10's of millions to, who were practically GUARANTEED to be on the DL, and are, were sub .500 with era's in the 5's going in so where's the upside?

With Cueto, the upside is evident and obvious and doesnt require a footnote.

 

The difference is the Giants are extra-meh on their farm in regards to pitching, thus were willing to take a chance and dump bigger bags of money/overextend on questionable guys.
Meanwhile LAD spent on bridge guys that could fill in until Urias, JDL, Montas and friends were ready..there's the upside.
You only get a daily reminder of the farm's impact when Corey Seager steps to the plate.

 

The difference is you're paying McCarthy and Anderson chump change instead of the $120M-ish Cueto is making.

 

and in those cases you get what you paid for.

And for the record (as if if matters) I don't think there's anything wrong with 1 yr. deals for pitchers like this. But 3 yrs. for McCarthy was and is ridiculous.

 

But, but...shouldn't they actually be pitching and more incredibly, winning games for the time to be considered " the difference"? Apples and oranges isn't it? I could see using Maeda maybe...at least he actively plays.
And if you get a guy that wins and is a great addition to your staff, isn't he worth 120 m in today's market? And what do you care how much they would have spent? Aren't we the super rich Dodgerz? Funny how you don't hear that shit ever anymore... a bit weak that you use two fucking DL deadbeats and compare them to a guy at the top of the ML game...lol.
Chump change is right, though...I'll agree with that right now. You spend chump change- you get chumps. and it won't change very soon. I hope we can all salivate eventually over what fabulous bargains they were!
Good tweeters, however.

 

I tend to be a lot more moderate in my support of the FO...

This Urias kid better be worth the wait. I hope he is, because a package built around Urias last year could have potentially netted us rentals of Price, Soria, and Cespedes damn near guaranteeing we could bully our way to the World Series. The price to keep this farm together has been steep.

Cheaper, yes. "Chump change" is a bit of a hyperbole. Even though I wanted McCarthy there was sticker shock at what he got, I was expecting him to get about 75% of what he did. Anderson I really think was just the FO misjudging what he would do when they gave him a QO. Basically both are overpay contracts even if they were healthy.

 

Even as a guy who didn't want Cueto, I'm with BZ on this one.

 

It's a null point, I much rather would've had Price.

 

That's who I wanted as well. It was 1. Retain Greinke. 2. Price 3. Trade for Gray or Fernandez. Cueto wasn't really on the radar for me.

BUT, Cueto is doing well so I could end up being wrong. We're allowed the be wrong as much as we want. But the FO has to have foresight and make the right calls because they're running the show.

BZ is right on about the willingness to hand millions to oft injured journeymen and unproven Cubans but not invest in proven major league talent. The FO outsmarts themselves sometimes. Plain and simple.

 

That was my list too. At some point though we need to stop complaining about the rotation and complain more about this terrible offense.

 

I still have faith in Turner, but either way he's not a young player. Seager is a beast. Joc has been a pleasant surprise and looks to be coming into his own (our best hitter thus far)

I like Thompson a lot right now but who knows what he truly is. Puig is just sad. Gonzo is aging and would be a 5 hitter in a great offense.

I just don't know with the offense. It's been so bad

 

I guess our " bring up that phenom asap" record is about 50/50, probably about the median in MLB comparitively. Idk for sure though...but they all one time or another, were tabbed as "saviours".
Over 10 years or so, there was Kemp, who was great, then, and now, hated and ridiculed...so Idk if he was a success. But they did keep him beyond initial control, and gave him a big contract.
Then, there was Puig, he was mind blowingly great back then and now...being waited on...then there was Joc, who was great, and now, imo, coming back, bit by bit, albeit in a somewhat different form.
Then Seagar, who looks pretty great, although right now streaky...and then Zack Lee, who I think, is a flat out ML bust.
Then minor ones, like Sands, and this Cubano and that one, who made little or no difference except maybe as a bargaining chip.
Then, of course, there is Clayton Kershaw, who is simply the best pitcher there is, and being called by increasingly more," the best there ever was" possibly. Vinny's faux pas echoing his Kufu- like greatness.
There's probably many more I forgot, but the point being, when Julio arrives, I hope he falls in line toward the Kershaw level...but there's just as much chance he may be closer to one of the others.
So, no matter what the overall verdict is on all the great hopes in AAA that came up, pluses and minuses, in the end, we still ain't champs.

 

Funny how Colletti was/is ostracized for signing Pierre @ 9M per despite the fact he performed and even stepped up his game when Manny was suspended and, at the same time, worship these guys while they dump many more millions down the drain on minor leaguers, career sore arm DL denizens and give away trades, all in the name of fiscal prudence. A perfect example was last week when they claimed that guy (I don't even GAF what his name is) from the Twins and almost a whole year of his 2.25MM salary and for what????? Another example is Greg Maddux. Sure he was great and drank wine in the dugout but the article I read the other day was talking about how he was "Actually here and actually spoke to the pitchers" like it was such a rare and amazing opportunity for them? WTF do they pay him for and why the fuck do they need a GM-esque upper middle management structure to run a BB team? Do they think it's cool to have board meetings when Walter comes so they appear to be busy while we fall further from the top of the division on the field?

Add up all the money they've pissed away and give it to a guy or two who perform and win games!!! Ahh, but that would be so c-o-n-v-e-n-t-i-o-n-a-l and well beneath these FUCKTARDS' combined intellect.

Astounding!

 

Great post.

 

I don't even know if A-Gon is a top-10 first baseman anymore. Puig and Yaz performing this year were going to be a huge part of the offense, and well, here we are. I don't even know who this Turner guy is anymore.

 

I remember how everyone excoriated Juan for having a noodle arm...as if it was a heavily guarded secret until he was signed by the LAD and he unveiled it then. The guy did exactly what he was doing on any other team he was on...played a solid LF and stole bases ( sadly missing now) as he always did. And led off competently.
I look at some of the adulation towards players now on the team, and quite frankly, overall, they couldn't carry Pierre's jock.