DODGERS 2017 NEWS/RUMORS/AROUND MLB Thread

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    That last part is what I was looking for. Thank you.
    I thought there was ways to trade hurt players in the mlb. Might be another league I'm thinking of.

    The other stuff I don't believe is an issue. Even with the injury Urias stock will continue to be high. The kid was way ahead of schedule and now he will be right around the same age as other kids coming up once he rehabs.
     
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    quoting that asshat moroNsi so fwiw...

    Rangers interested in Dodgers top prospects for Darvish
    by Matthew Moreno | Dodger Blue — 3 hours ago

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    Over the last few days the Los Angeles Dodgers have been publicly connected to Texas Rangers right-hander Yu Darvish. First, the Dodgers were said to have scouted his start last Friday, then it was reported the club has significant interest in trading for the 30-year-old.

    That was all prior to Clayton Kershaw coming out of his start early due to right lower back tightness. Kershaw is scheduled to undergo further testing and is essentially a lock to be placed on the disabled list.

    It’s not yet clear what the uncertainty surrounding his status may mean for the Dodgers’ plans ahead of the July 31 trade deadline. They do have a comfortable lead in the National League West and already are experienced in surviving without their ace.

    In the event Los Angeles is further motivated to pursue a trade for Darvish, the Rangers reportedly would seek two prospects from Yadier Alvarez, Walker Buehler, Willie Calhoun and Alex Verdugo, per Jon Morosi of MLB.com:

    "Sources say the Rangers are likely to ask the Dodgers for at least two of the following prospects: right-hander Walker Buehler, center fielder Alex Verdugo, second baseman Willie Calhoun and right-hander Yadier Alvarez."

    Of the quartet, the Dodgers may be most inclined to retain Buehler and Verudgo. The organization reportedly is keen on not trading prospects who are on the doorstep of reaching the Majors. Instead, there’s thought to be a willingness to trade others who are high-ceiling but further away from making their MLB debuts.

    Buehler began the season with High-A Rancho Cucamonga, made a stop with Double-A Tulsa, and is now pitching for Triple-A Oklahoma City. There’s a strong expectation he’ll join the Dodgers in September to pitch out of the bullpen.

    As for Verdugo, Dodgers general manager Farhan Zaidi recently said he did not see a scenario with which the 21-year-old is traded prior to the deadline. Zaidi added Verdugo was ‘big-league ready’ or near that caliber.

    Positional questions have dogged Calhoun all the while he’s held his own at the plate throughout the Minors. He leads Oklahoma City with a .584 slugging percentage, 22 home runs and 65 RBI this season.

    The Dodgers have cast some doubt on whether Calhoun is capable of playing second base at the Majors. He’s recently played some left field for OKC, which is a position the Dodgers are not lacking depth in.

    Alvarez was arguably the Dodgers’ biggest jewel from the 2015-16 international signing period. The Cuban native has received a $16 million signing bonus and though he possess an electric arm that’s capable of reaching triple digits, there are questions about command.

    Alvarez made his debut with the Drillers on Sunday, allowing three runs (two earned) on six hits over four innings. Alvarez issued four walks and collected five strikeouts.

    What may impact the likelihood of the Rangers have their asking price met is Darvish is eligible to reach free agency this winter. The Dodgers in particularly are not a team under president of baseball operations Andrew Friedman to mortgage the future for a rental.
     
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    I wouldn't do two of Alvarez, Calhoun, Buehler, or Verdugo to be honest. That's way more than previous rentals where it's usually one top prospect plus one or two lesser ones. So like Alvarez plus one way lower or Calhoun plus two lower
     
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    buehler and verdugo shouldn't even be considerations
    but i'd be tempted to if it was alvarez and calhoun tbh
    that said, not sure we should panic just cuz kersh went down
    kinda torn whether kersh's injury expedites the need
    idk, so depressed and not thinking clearly
     
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    Calhoun plus a catching prospect.
     
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    I've already been on record saying I'd trade Calhoun and Alvarez in a heartbeat mainly because of the depth in the minors from the right side. Nothing against those 2 but Willie has defense issues and is better suited to DH while Yadier has struggled in A ball where Buehler did not. Yadier will be pitching this Wednesday for Tulsa I believe so maybe I change my mind after the start. The only issue of course is that the deadline will be upon us.

    http://www.latimes.com/sports/dodgers/la-sp-dodgers-darvish-hernandez-20170723-story.html
     
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    If the Rangers think three months of Yu Darvish, only one month of which we actually need him, is worth up to 18 years of player control of top 100 prospects they are nuts I can go screw themselves
     
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    I'd be tempted to do Alvarez plus Calhoun as well and I think that easily beats any offer but my main reason for not doing so is that previous ace rentals didn't cost as much. Cueto and Price were both traded for less
     
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    Normally I'm with you 200% but losing Kershaw is a game changer!!!! Not every report of who the Rangers want is always accurate, it all comes down to trusting the Nerds and I know that is a hard thing to do, lol.
     
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    I think Calhoun is going to end up on an American League team anyways, so I wouldn't mind giving him up in a deal like this. Alvarez is so far away from the Major Leagues that I'm not necessarily attached tohim. Did you prospects are so tough anyways. Yeah, I think I would do this.

    But like you said, other teams seem to have given up less four comprable starters, so it's annoying that we always have to pay a premium
     
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    The NYY, armed with payroll space and talented specs, weren't among the pool of teams interested in those guys.
    The price is all about the market and who's in it and right now we're hearing NYY and the Cubs
    This is a high powered market..so many of the teams that are buying have top tier farm systems to play with and payroll flexibility
     
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    The Cubs farm is somewhat depleted, but as mentioned before, they have young talent at the major league level that they could move and if a Schwarber or Russell hits the block, good luck
     
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    True but the White Sox ruined it for everyone because of what they got for their trades. Plus we can't deny that we MAY be in desperate mode if Kershaw is out for the season God forbid. 1 week away from deadline. Willie Calhoun posted this and quickly deleted it: Yu, is that you? Let the uncoding begin. Not sure shy he did it but it was interesting,
     
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    Alvarez + Calhoun probably gets LAD a seat at the table among NYY and the Cubs + maybe the Brewers as well with their super farm system and payroll flexibility
    Gets them in the game, but those two may not guarantee LAD anything regarding Darvish, not in this particular market
    I hope the reports of a strong market for Darvish are wrong or off and LAD can get him for less, but I'm not counting on it
    The NYY need a #1 and look to be setting the tone here right now
    Almost makes me wonder if other interested teams will just go ahead and bow out/start looking elsewhere, knowing they can't value Darvish more than NYY, ultimately allowing for NYY to get him for a tick less.
    LAD has the Kershaw shit going on now with his back, but LAD's payroll picture is still muddied because of semi-useless Adrian/Kazmir/Ryu which could quell their hunger to re-sign Darvish, thus somewhat hinder the way they value him.
    NYY's payroll pic is cleaner right now
    Maybe TEX represents an org that LAD could dump some of their bad contracts on because TEX rarely goes into a full rebuild, and then that'd open it up for LAD
     
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    Yep, the price completely depends on the current market and everything points to a bidding war for Darvish.

    Like you said, if the Cubs offer Schwarber or Russell they become hard to beat. Texas isn't looking to rebuild, so major league talent will be a huge plus for them.

    And the Yankees are absolutely in a better position to sign Darvish, making him even more valuable to them. I think the Dodgers would trade for him purely as a rental.

    So that's what the Cubs and Yankees have going for them. What we have is creativity, so we could bring in a third team to get Texas the major league talent they want. Or another thing I could see happening, is we backdoor the whole thing and pry Hamels from Texas instead. But even more likely is we step away and make a deal for Verlander. I think if we flip Kazmir in a Verlander deal then picking up Verlander's remaining contract is very doable.
     
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    Not putting anything past Theo but he's on record as saying he prefers controllable pitchers and Darvish is not. Verlander/Gray are though.
     
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    My money is on the Cubs matching up with Gray. The price will be more expensive, but it would give them Quintana + Gray, both under control for a few years at reasonable cost. Feels like a good match with Lackey and Arrieta both potentially gone next year.
     
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