MLB NEWS/RUMORS Thread

I admire everyone on here and their arguments about Stanton for and against but I see so many posts without the elephant in the room, he has a FULL NO TRADE CLAUSE. Marlins can do what ever they want business wise or trade proposal wise and the teams in pursuit can do the same but Stanton holds all the cards. He can force his way out of there by any means he deems necessary.

 

https://www.baseballamerica.com/maj...r.com&utm_campaign=buffer#sfG1m7bMXR62zRrf.97

 

As much as I like the idea of getting Stanton, I would be disappointed if we traded Puig to bring in Stanton. It's clear Puig has turned the corner and is a different player than he was. I have little fear of Puig regressing, and he's almost guaranteed to be better in 2018 with a full season of the good Puig. Stanton represents a 2 WAR upgrade at best. Taking on so much contract risk and turning so many wheels just for 2 wins... I don't see our FO doing that.

 

He gave the Marlins a list of teams that he would accept trades to, so I don't think he is as gung-ho on wanting to play only for the Dodgers as we all may hope(though I am sure that we are far and away his #1 choice). I feel like if that truly were the case, it would have been leaked by now. I think the Giants being so heavy into this is probably not a great thing for us since he very likely would be ok playing for them. If he hears that the Dodgers aren't really going hard after him, that could also be taken as a shot at him that he is not wanted and may take a trade out of spite. Not saying he will, but if the Marlins say, "look, we have tried to trade you to LA upon your wishes. The thing is, they are asking for us to eat $100M of your contract and are only offering us C and D level prospects in return. They don't want you, but the (insert team here) does want you and they are showing so with this offer. If you only say you want to play for LA, then we are going to do what is best for the organization and hold onto you, but we have some good offers for Yellich, Gordon, Ziegler, etc... that we are probably going to do instead". That happens and I am sure he will think twice before sticking it to the Marlins.

 

I'd be disappointed as well (as I pointed out), but I can also see why they would do it if they WERE to land Ohtani and still wanted Stanton since it fits the bill of this FO. Like I said, this was purely speculation on the "what if?" scenario by execs that know how this FO likes to work. We may never hear all the offers behind the scenes, but it could also be something where the Dodgers just float Puig out there, but only for a return of elite prospects. As big and powerful as an OF of Stanton, Puig and Bellinger would be, it'd also be one of the best defensively as well since all have +/++ OF arms and average/+ speed.

 

You are, but not alone in thinking that way. I feel the same way, especially after he has dealt with injuries a good bit of his career (which is why he has moved to DH). Still, when he has played he has absolutely crushed and at such a young age, there is hope that he will continue to develop and should be able to build on it at the major league level. One thing to note about NBPL is that it is on par with our MiLB, but the comparisons vary wildly. I have asked scouts that say it is basically HiA-AA level of play and other people that know both well that say it is more AAAA. Him leaving at such a young age could be good for him and may be interesting to see how it affects that league going forward

 

A couple of thoughts. I always thought Ohtani would have to happen before Stanton. If they get Ohtani, the chances of Stanton just go from like 5% to like 1%. Only way this logjam could would work is as you said, Taylor to 2B, Ohtani 1b, Stanton LF, Puig RF. But that would make both Joc and Forsythe expendable. I think Ohtani picks his team before Stanton gets dealt.
And with Puig I have a decent amount of optimism he can get even better and that is because of his splits. He was abysmal vs lefties and excellent vs RHP. If he can get that avg/OBP/slugging up back to where he used to be vs LHP along with hitting .280 vs RHP, he all of the sudden becomes elite again, like that was the difference between JT in 2016 vs 2017

 

Some don't think this is a real possibility. It's very fuckin real. As much as I like them in CF, I fear for Taylor and Bellinger out there because of action addict Puig. I almost wish we could just sacrifice Verdugo to the beast on a day to day basis. Go with the cheapest guy who doesn't have a superstar ceiling in CF. You go with Puig in CF, you endanger too many guys

Definitely feel like Bellinger's athletcism is wasted at 1B to degree. And if it's any OF position I like him at, it's his natural CF spot given his comfort there. Don't think the bat would be hindered there. But yeah, as mentioned above..Puig definitely could take him out any given day.

Probably can't get a Cole or maybe even a Teheran in return for Puig given the lack of team control. Well, maybe that's not true in ATL's case..new ballpark and they've wanted to spend. They could use a fan favorite type. But yeah, as I was saying a couple days ago..if LAD can re-sign Puig to a team friendly 5yr/70M-ish type of deal, that may be the sort of bargain they look for next to a Stanton that's raking in twice as much on the AAV

 

I also think we would've heard if LAD was just bullshittin around. On MLB radio the other day they said that maybe the last thing Stanton wants is for it to be out there that he wants hometown LAD, but they don't really want him. So I think Stanton and his reps would've killed the LAD thing a while ago if they felt LAD wasn't really interested. We're down that path now

 

You know it’s the dead season when people are debating what to do if you get Stanton AND Ohtani lmao

 

Come on guys, most of those collisions were fat ass LAZY Joc's fault. On multiple occasions I watched the replays and Joc kept his mouth shut the whole time. In fact Joc also ran into Taylor and Puig in one game.......both times his trap was sealed shut. Anyone who has even played Farm Baseball (that's what it was called when I played as a 10yr old) knows that the CF is in charge and he needs to call any other players off. Can't do that when your lips DONT MOVE!!!

Side note.....i did laugh at the thought of Puig Terry Tate-ing Taylor/Bellinger/Ohtoni....LOL!!!!! THE PAIN TRAIN IS COMING WHOOO WHOOO!!!!

 

And there it is, was only a matter of time before this came out. "Accept trade, or else"
http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/fish-bytes/article186954163.html

 

Jeter set to take his ball and go home
LAD probably like.." Shiiit, we like Yelich too. "

 

I don't want Ohtani.