DODGERS Andre Ethier, the forgotten Dodger

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  1. irish

    irish DSP Staff Member Administrator

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    we've all known what a great teammate/sport ethier has been
    nice someone other than us finally spoke about it (albeit from a douche like plaschke)
    still, nice to see others recognize it
    would be nice to see him have a special postseason moment...


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    Andre Ethier has become the odd man out in the Dodgers outfield this season. (Getty Images)

    For years he was everywhere, but suddenly he's nowhere.

    He is not in the outfield. He is not on the video board. His name is not recited in chants. His face cannot be seen amid the bubbles. In all the recent Dodgers hoopla, he has been missing, a piece of the landscape gone, an old friend forgotten.

    Then Andre Ethier steps out of the dugout in the ninth inning, and Dodgers fans remember.

    What happens next is not so much a prolonged cheer as a giant embrace, loud and lingering, the biggest nightly roar for someone not named Kershaw or Puig, many folks even standing, everyone cherishing.

    The most difficult time of his career has also become the most inspirational, and Ethier hears every one of you.

    "I would be lying if I said I didn't get goose bumps," Ethier said. "I'll never stop giving to these fans, ever."

    Those cheers are not only appreciation for how he has played for the last nine years, but admiration for the way he will handle the next three minutes. That's usually all that Ethier can give these days.

    After spending nearly a decade in the warm cocoon of the Dodgers' lineup card, he has become the guy left awkwardly standing alone in this year's game of musical outfielders, the fourth guy in a party of three, relegated to the strange place known as the bench and the suffocating role known as pinch-hitting.

    "It's been my most humbling season," he said. "But it's one where I've learned the most."

    A couple of months ago, he learned that Manager Don Mattingly preferred Yasiel Puig over him in center field, Matt Kemp ahead of him in right and Carl Crawford as the left-handed hitter in left. He learned that, at age 32 and with a .247 average and only four home runs as starter, these could be his last days in a Dodgers uniform.

    "I've definitely had some sleepless nights trying to figure things out," Ethier said.

    But he has learned to not only take it, but triumph over it. After spending much of his career famously fighting frustration with an attack on a bat rack or water cooler, he learned to keep his mouth shut, his bat warm and his priorities straight.

    Unlike other Dodgers outfielders who publicly complained before the positions were finalized, Ethier has never been so openly positive and smiling and accommodating as he has helped push the Dodgers into October. He has learned when it seems your team needs you the least, maybe that's when it needs you the most.

    "Your pride wants to fight it, but you learn to check it and realize that's not what's best for my teammates, that's not the best example for anyone who's paying attention," he said. "I could act mad, but I don't want to affect my teammates or the fans with that kind of energy. We're so close to our ultimate goal, I will not get in the way of that goal. I'll do whatever it takes to bring home that trophy."

    So while his presence may have shrunk considerably, his aura has grown only larger. Ethier is big in the clubhouse for maintaining a work ethic that brings him to the ballpark so early that he has often completed a full workout as other players are arriving. Ethier is big among fans for still showing up for pregame autographs and photos, signing more balls and shaking more hands than ever.

    Ethier is also large in the eyes of the manager who benched him.

    "He's been a great teammate," Mattingly said. "He's not happy with the situation but he's going to be professional about it … that makes it easier for everybody."

    Oh yeah, and the dude can seriously pinch-hit, with a .290 average and .450 on-base percentage in 40 plate appearances. Everyone knows how much he loves the pressure, particularly in 2009, when he had six walk-off hits, including four walk-off home runs that tied a major league record. Ethier has played in more postseason games as a Dodger than anyone on the roster, and he may play his biggest role now that he's on the bench.

    "One of the criticisms of our playoff teams recently is that we haven't had a late-inning power guy off the bench," General Manager Ned Colletti said. "Well, now we've got a guy who can change a game."

    The biggest Dodgers postseason hit in the last 26 years came from a late-inning pinch-hitter, remember? Yeah, that was injured Kirk Gibson's role in the ninth inning of the 1988 World Series opener.

    Since then, the Dodgers have missed that late-inning postseason magic, with only one walk-off postseason hit since 1988, pinch-hitter Mark Loretta's single to beat the St. Louis Cardinals in the Game 2 of a 2009 division series. Last season, they did not have a pinch-hit in the National League Championship Series against the Cardinals, who had two pinch-hits that led to victories.

    Ethier has thought about his chances of being that sort of postseason hero even as he has admittedly fought the anger that comes with losing your job, a torment that was eased some in daily phone calls with his father.

    "I would tell him, 'Live it, breathe it, accept it, come to the ballpark every day with smile on your face,' " Byron Ethier said. "Remember the magical moments. Build off the positives. Be a leader. Enjoy the ride. You're still one in 6 million."

    At this point, Ethier will be happy just being the one in the ninth, the one with the game on the line, the one who already has a playoff prediction for those fans who have never lost faith.

    "I'm going to come up with a big hit," he said smiling, accepting, waiting for those goose bumps. "Seriously, that's how I feel right now. I know I'll come up with a big hit."​
     
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  2. MZA

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    Get Dre a ring...

    and then trade him in the off season.
     
  3. TuborgP

    TuborgP DSP Legend

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    Not sure Dre gets traded in the off season. We are probably one injury away from him starting again
     
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    rube DSP Legend Staff Member Administrator

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    Dre could be the next great dodger pinch hitter.
     
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    How touching......
    :crybaby:
     
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    I haven't forgotten how much he sucks
     
  7. N.Z

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    He is a 2014 version of Juan Pierre. If he's happy with that, so be it. I'm not.
     
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    back2back x 2 + 1 DSP Legend Damned

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    for real. i hope everybody stays happy and healthy so i never get a reminder. Lmao
     
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    Dre was saying the right things...mature and not cynical at all, and he should be complimented for his candor and attitude.
    However, he played himself right into what he has become, and no one else is to blame. When I see him AB, as much as I try to shake my head and say "no way", I see a guy, save for a hit here and there once in a great while, who is at the end of his career. Prematurely, I would say.
    Perhaps he will arise Phoenix-like, with another team. And considering what Tubo wrote, that we are just an injury away from him in the OF, that would be sad and bad, considering what he contributes to the the team now.
    We will be lucky, if he does go on the block, to get someone worth half what he is pulling down salalry wise.
     
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    lastatman DSP Legend Staff Member Moderator

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    Why would Ned bring up Turner in a discussion on Ethier?

    All joking aside, I do appreciate how Ethier has handled the demotion. But I agree with Bluezoo's take on this. It's been years since Ethier held his own against LHP, and in the last four years he couldn't even hit .225 against them. This season, even righties are having their way with him. Early on this year I was calling for CC to be the regular starter in LF -- you could see how the ball was jumping off his bat compared to Ethier.

    So now he's our key pinch-hitter in the playoffs? I hope only as a last resort. If the game's on the line, I want to see JT or SVS.
     
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    I completely agree with Neddie on this one.
    Yes, so right Ned, which totally attests to your years-long inneffectiveness to get the team what it has needed for season after season. So sorely been missing, along with other pieces.
    It's nice that you have realized one of your major shortcomings, and lists of guys with names on them who have given us shots and sporadic good performance, but then totally crapped out and became useless and money swilling sources, like Schmidt, Andruw, Manny, Beckett, Pierre, HoF manager JoTo, etc, will not ever change the failure during your tenure. I say extend you now!!! Apocalypse NOW!!!
    Maybe you've done it this time, we can only hope. If we do, I, for one, will start with renewed faith in you, and support you until you fail again. IF you do..
    Don't want to be cynical, because to the cynic, nothing is ever revealed.​
     
  12. TuborgP

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    We have to remember SVS is our backup first baseman and if we trade Dre then there would be four assuming Joc can handle it. The key might be Guerro who played left the other day. Ned will have some key 25 man roster decisions next year as we have a chunk of change spent on Cubans and bringing Turner back will be coins since he only cost a million this year and was awesome
     
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    it's not all bad with Ethier..i mean yea, he definitely sucks. but what i do enjoy from him is his ability to have a decent AB in a pinch role. the fact that he's come up clutch so many times in his career only helps his confidence in that role. we have the best bench in the NL..the Nats can suck it.
     
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    Guerrero is with the big club next year guaranteed. it's in his contract..can only be sent down to the minors in year 1. i assume we'll be doing whatever it takes to keep the ginger and Arruba's making too much money to stay down ( and he's having good ABs as well), so with SVS getting some time @ 1B there should be room for Guerrero to make some spot starts in LF. i don't know that Ethier will be useless to us..we still need that lefty bat from the bench and unless they're finding a taker for Crawford, Pederson will be in Oklahoma City next year proving he can do it away from HR friendly New Mexico..unless he gets traded..which he might..since his value is in CF and Puig is proving to be a big impact guy in CF.

    if i had to guess, i'd say our bench becomes Turner/SVS/Guerrero/Arruba/Ethier/FedEx
     
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    I agree we need Ginger and Dre may be wise to read the tea leaves and embrace The Blue regardless of role. A lot depends on what happens with Hanley. I am not sure he is as open market valued as some think. He can be a handful to manage and wants a contract no one may give him. He is no Jeter in personality and going to the Yankees could be a disaster
     
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    I could see that happening. I still remember when he had 22 walkoffs in one season back in 2001. He's as good a bet as anyone to have that hit that send the Cardinals packing... "The $85 million hit"
     
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    good point and i forgot about Ellis' situation as well because i just don't believe they're gonna stand by and let our catcher position continue to suck. Hanley will be valued a lot more in the AL where he can DH a bunch, so ultimately i think that's where he goes. i think we give him a qualifying offer and collect a 1st round pick with his departure.

    and so that bench set up i have above with SVS/Turner/Dre/Guerrero/Arruba/FedEx is probably wrong. it'll probably look more like SVS/Turner/Ethier/Guerrero/Ellis with Arruba getting his shot to start and 6 in the pen ( because Wilson sucks).

    my prediction on the starters..

    Dee
    Puig
    AGon
    Kemp
    CC
    Uribe
    Arruba
    R.Martin

    i think it'll either be Martin or Wieters at catcher for us and since i can't really predict a trade with BMore and Martin will be free to sign..goin with Martin. although, Wieters would give us a better power bat for the 5 hole..CC and SVS can suffice there. Martin would fit our needs as well..can break up some double plays with his speed and get the lineup turned over.
     
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    i could see any one of Turner, SVS, or Ethier having moments..plural. hopefully Donnie Dum Dum will deploy them correctly.
     
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    He will, DBB knows what Dre has done and has him hungry and chomping at the bit for his moment n the sun.
     
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    Considering that one of the pre season Knocks on us was a weak bench, we have come a long way.
     
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