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who has the shittiest series?

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  2. santana

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  3. floro

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  4. kenley

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  5. treinen

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  7. bellinger

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  1. MZA

    MZA MODERATOR Staff Member

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    And this is why Kenley sucks. He’s coddled. This FO and Dave won’t put him in his place. He doesn’t have it. Sucks, but we’re trying to win and we can’t trot out a guy who we can’t trust to not have a clean inning even when he’s on
     
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    I always pray so hard that one of Kenley's weak ass pitches will be smacked up the middle off his head.
     
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    fsudog21 DSP Legend

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    With his reduced velocity and erratic cutter he has to be spot on with his command. He just doesn't have that.

    Sad thing is he had four of the six hitters he faced 0-2 and couldn't put them away. Speaks volumes.

    Once again one-third of the lineup (Muncy, Bellinger and Lux) were useless. Bellinger finally got a hit on the only pitch he can handle these days, a fastball below the belt. Anything above the belt and he's overmatched.

    Glad Urias made it through six. That's a beginning. Still seeing way too many sloppy breaking balls up in the zone and too many 3-2 counts. Like that Roberts let him pitch his way out of the final inning.

    Did I mention the starting staff is in chaos?
     
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    Lux has no balls at all,.imo. The hard stare ain't getting it done boy. Muncy has become a liability also.
    I've looked at a whole lot of baseball games in my day...a whole lot.
    That was the worst regular season loss I ever saw. I don't delude myself into believing the Dodgers aren't, at the core, a punk-ass team. They are. And they prove it every year with the relentless failure...
    But that last night by Kenley, even for a team with their loser DNA, was a brick fucking wall falling on their heads.
    Jansen is another post season embarrassment waiting to happen.
    The choice is Kolarek for an inning. There is enough time to acclimate him to the role...he can get three outs without giving up five runs I believe.
    It really has come down to anyone else is a probably better choice than Jansen.
     
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    yeah that’s kinda my point, that I made in a clunky way. That the numbers showed someone who wasn’t awful but you watch the stuff and command and it’s like: nope, this dude isn’t an effective closer. And my main concern is that one way or another he’s gonna be put in important spots, even not as a closer, so I hope he has some command come back
     
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    doyerfan MODERATOR Staff Member Moderator

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    true, after yesterday, it’s not good. And yeah that was kinda my point: his peripheral and his numbers don’t look bad but every outing has looked like “wtf, how are people not walking on every at bat or sending this shit to the seats”
     
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    I hope that last sentence carries a lot of weight cause that’s where this hurts. Imagine being the best team in baseball and not carrying it all the way cause u were stuck with Jansen. The Dodgers pride themselves on chemistry and good clubhouse vibes but they gotta be a little more ruthless with this
     
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    In the end, I’ll reiterate that I’ll honestly look back at yesterday fondly if, and only if, it leads to some sort of bullpen hierarchy change that is better for us in the postseason. This blow up was BOUND to happen, and it’s happened twice this week, and I’d rather it happen this week then October so let’s hope it leads to something positive
     
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    So ... as this place is my sole source of Dodger info ... Kenley fucked a dog again, huh?

    You know, someone else already said it well, but I don't blame Kenley anymore. Anyone who's surprised to see this guy suck in pressure situations is to blame, less so Jansen.

    The guy was lights out for a couple of years, and it was a wonderful thing to watch him work. But now his star has fallen, and unless somebody does a magic spell or some superpower bullshit on his arm, he's never going to be anywhere close to who he once was.

    Anyway... Looks like all of us, even those of us who are as unplugged as I am, aren't going to get what we've been hoping for since 1988.

    Color me unsurprised & underwhelmed.
     
  10. irish

    irish DSP Staff Member Administrator

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    kenley’s last two outings...

    1⅓ innings pitched
    52 pitches
    8 hits
    8 runs (6 earned)
    1 strikeout
    era from 1.06 to 3.93
     
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    Michael J. Duarte/NBC LA
    Kenley Jansen has admitted to me on multiple occasions that there's times that he realizes he just doesn't have it on that particular night. As a competitor, he will always try and grind through it for his teammates. Roberts has to recognize it and take the ball from him.
     
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    irish DSP Staff Member Administrator

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    Apollo Media ✓@ApolloHOU
    Fact: Kenley Jansen has a 20.17 ERA against the Astros in Dodger’s Stadium
    8:09 PM · Sep 12, 2020 · Twitter for iPhone
     
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    i don't often tweet...
    but when i do, i shamelessly plug dsp

    irish@irish_la
    Following Saturday night's meltdown, Dave Roberts names
    Kenley Jansen as tonight's starter against the Astros.
    #Dodgers @DSP_forum
    11:12 AM · Sep 13, 2020 · Twitter Web App
     
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    Before his last 2 outings, his BABIP against was .188, almost 100 points less than his career average. His walk rate was almost double his career average and he had 3 HBP in only 17 innings. He was primed for major regression, even before these last 2 outings where he looked about as bad as I’ve ever seen any pitcher.
     
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    Roberts... “We’ve just got to continue to give Kenley confidence and expect him to go out there and close out games for us.”
    [​IMG]
     
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    BlueMouse DFA Kenley Staff Member Administrator

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    It’s not a confidence issue. Confidence doesn’t matter when you throw a 90 mph cutter with no cut that you can’t locate within a foot of your intended target.
     
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    The diminished, almost thoroughly absent talents are one thing...but Dave Roberts and his ignorant insistance on Jansen's support, and "hoping" that he can close still in the future, is a childish and tempting failure to a moronic level...and this over rated little man will get what he deserves for it. And handsomely paid, too.
    And we, loyal and patiently waiting fans, will all just be watching a replay of another result like so many of the past.
     
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    irish DSP Staff Member Administrator

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    kenley leaving dodger stadium last night after the game...

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