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If the Dodgers could acquire one player at the deadline, who would you prefer?

  1. Machado

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  2. Front line starter (degrom, thor, et al)

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  1. Chiefdodgerslkrs24

    Chiefdodgerslkrs24 Among the Pantheon

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    It is a common misconception that Corey Seager is not a good defensive SS. He’s actually pretty good and throwing from third is a farther throw than SS most of the time.

    Also Justin Turner would have to move more playing first base than he ever would playing third base. Like literally he has to run to the bag on every groundball, and about the same number of groundballs will come his way at either position, literally the only difference is the distance of the throws he’d have to make

    And Zack Cozart is on the wrong side of 30 and just had the flukiest career year ever due to a juiced ball and will likely revert back to hitting .250 the rest of his career
     
  2. irish

    irish DSP Staff Member Administrator

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    and knowing the cards they probably asked for verdugo and buehler
     
  3. irish

    irish DSP Staff Member Administrator

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    here we go with the annual chris archer to la rumors...

    Rays listening on trade offers for Chris Archer, others
    by Matthew Moreno | Dodger Blue — 2 hours ago

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    Since the days when Andrew Friedman was leading their front office, the Tampa Bay Rays have been regular players in the trade market. At times, it’s been more smoke then fire, but the team has occasionally moved forward with deals.

    Tampa Bay finds themselves in a bit of a difficult situation this winter. They’re coming off a fourth consecutive losing season, though one which they won 80 games for a second time in that span. Alex Cobb, who was extended a qualifying offer, is a key free agent.

    Lucas Duda, Logan Morrison and Colby Rasmus are also among the players no longer under contract. Furthermore, the Rays are in a division with traditional contenders Boston Red Sox and New York Yankees.

    Mulling over a potential rebuild, the Rays are considering trade offers for Chris Archer and others who remain under team control, according to Jon Heyman of Today’s Knuckleball:

    The Tampa Bay Rays, perennially disadvantaged by revenue restraints, are gauging interest in some of their top players, including star pitcher Chris Archer – talks that carry the potential to shake up the market, if they ultimately decide to rebuild. “We’re listening right now,” Rays general manager Erik Neander said.

    If made available, Archer would join Miami Marlins slugger Giancarlo Stanton as one of the more sought-after players this offseason. Unlike Stanton, the right-hander has neither an exorbitant contract or no-trade clause.

    It’s believed the Rays fielded offers for Archer prior to each of the last non-waiver trade deadlines. The Los Angeles Dodgers were among the clubs linked to the young ace in each instance.

    They presumably would still have interest in Archer, who could serve as a replacement of sorts to Yu Darvish. Of course, it’s likely the Rays will continue to have a high asking price for the 29-year-old.

    Archer is owed $6.4 million next season, $7.6 million in 2019, and has $9 million and $11 million club options on his contract for 2020 and 2021, respectively. Those years also include $1.75 million and $250,000 buyouts.
     
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  4. VRP

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    Verdugo plus for Archer
     
  5. dodgers

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    The oldest rumor that will never come to pass
     
  6. Fall Winslow

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    Pretty much
     
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    I dont think he is a bad defensive SS at all. But when he is injured he is a mediocre defender. And he is injured. There is not a lot of jumping over people at 1B.
    It is not the length of the throw that is the problem. It is the angles and speed with which he has to throw.
    Again with Turner at 1B. It is not how much he has to move but what kind of moves he has to make. You have to drop down to your knees a lot at 3B. More issues with speed, angle, and power of throw while jumping and twisting.
    1B is the least dangerous position to play in the IF and the least likely to injure a player and hide/protect one recovering from injury.

    Cozart wont be expensive because of that. Could be a bargain. And the ball is juiced up. Expect certain players that can take advantage will continue to take advantage.
     
  8. spanky006

    spanky006 DSP Legend

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    Id rather MGT go after Ohtoni.
     
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    We all understand the risks of Stanton. Big money and somewhat of an injury risk.

    But he's a local product who is still young, attractive, marketable, and drops BOMBS. He's an L.A type player and would take our lineup to another level.

    I'd waive my concerns if we got him.
     
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    Doubtful that one would get in the way of the other.
     
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  11. Fall Winslow

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    Also, still have to wonder if Ohtani will even begin the season in the rotation. Could be kept in Arizona for some extended work, coming back from the surgery and all. Could also be used as an option in LF to start out and then rotate into the rotation when LAD begins it's 10 day DL cycle with some of the other starters. It's hard to pinpoint how they'll use him, but they certainly won't pass up a legitimate opp to land cost controlled guys like Archer and Gerrit Cole because they had to drop 300K on Ohtani. It'll be the price that Tampa is putting on Archer that makes LAD pass.
     
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    Would not be surprised if our FO gets "more serious" about Stanton now that apparently he is not interested in going to 2 of the 4 teams rumored to be the strongest after him. Plus, if he is not wanting to go to STL or Boston, no chance in hell he wants to go to Philly either since that fanbase is full of fuckwads too. So if the Giants are the only strong suitor left, it makes sense for the Dodgers to stay involved, if only to make it more of a costly transaction for SF. Still don't believe that we are going to do what is necessary to land Stanton, but it would be fun to find out that our sticking around cost someone an extra $25M and another impact prospect.
     
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    Philly's fans are obviously shitty, but Stanton has multiple reasons for not wanting to go there. Another one of them being that he's made it clear that he doesn't want to be involved in another rebuild and of course that's what they're doing Philly, so that whole scene is just a no-go. It's a cute, little option that Miami's FO drummed up for fake leverage, but nah. This whole show is seemingly trying to build leverage against the Dodgers..what we'll probably end up finding out. And I wouldn't be shocked if Jeter just took his ball and went home.
     
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    Ohtani is an extremely affordable luxury and no off season move would get in the way of it or not
     
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    spanky006 DSP Legend

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    You think that MGT would go after Ohtani AND Archer???
     
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  16. dodgers

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    I honestly think the Phillies could win 85-90 next year for a wild card
     
  17. dodgers

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    Each acquisition taps into different resources. Financial and farm
     
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    There is no room in the rotation for Archer and Ohtani. So MGT would most certainly only go after one. Another factor to consider is that our farm system is great, but not great enough to handle Archer and Stanton. IMO they should sign Ohtani and Stanton. Leave Archer as a back up if they don't get Ohtani.
     
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    They’ve shown a willingness many times over to overstock the rotation with talent with the expectation that pitching breaks down over the course of the season. Especially when it comes to elite talent I can’t see that stopping them.
     
  20. irish

    irish DSP Staff Member Administrator

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    yup
    realize its a small sample size, but not overwhelmed w/verdugo
    i think he could be a good everyday mlb player
    but not marquee
    could be wrong, but by the time he fully develops archer could have another 20-30 wins
     
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