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If the Dodgers could acquire one player at the deadline, who would you prefer?

  1. Machado

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  2. Front line starter (degrom, thor, et al)

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  1. ColoradoKidWitGame

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    For those that are still talking about Jose Miguel Fernandez and still perplexed by his being waived, this is from the BA chat I just posted. It is 70 questions deep so here it is in all it's singular glory

    Barnold (Dunedin): Whatever happened with Jose Miguel Fernandez? He was cut recently, but did he really have that bad a year?

    Kyle Glaser: His defense was really, really, really bad. As in, completely unplayable at every spot on the field. If you’re the Dodgers, no sense keeping a soon-to-be 30 year old with no future in your organization, seeing as you’re an NL team
     
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    No thanks on Hosmer as that guy has been anything but consistent in his career. Offensively he has responded to every good season with a meh to awful year and his defense is badly deteriorating. UZR has him as one of the worst fielding 1B and his numbers are trending in the wrong direction. You take chances tinkering with a guys swing when you're paying him the minimum, not when you're paying him $20M a year and I agree that Hosmer should probably make some adjustments to his swing. With that said, I don't trust anyone saying that if a guy wanted to, he's so good he would instantly turn into a 50 HR guy. They said that same bullshit with Ichiro who is one of the greatest hitters of all time and even he couldn't do it.
     
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    What we know about the Giancarlo Stanton situation
    by Kyle Downing | MLB Trade Rumors — 73 minutes ago

    As of Black Friday, the 2017 offseason has been astonishingly quiet. The trade and free agent market seems as though it’s being held up in large part by the situation surrounding NL MVP Giancarlo Stanton. Once that massive domino falls, it’s possible we’ll see a flurry of free agent activity follow. In the meantime, however, Stanton rumors are a heavy focus of the baseball media cycle, and as MLBTR’s Jeff Todd pointed out in an in-depth piece earlier this month, his market is wide and complex. As we approach the weekend, here’s an overview of what we know about the Marlins’ attempt to deal their All-Star outfielder.

    He’s the best player available on the market- This may be redundant considering I already mentioned his brand new MVP award, but the subject is well worth its own spotlight. His .281/.376/.631 batting line is other worldly, and his 59 homers paced all of baseball in 2017. While his 6.9 fWAR only tied for fifth among all players in the majors, the rest of the top seven (Aaron Judge, Jose Altuve, Chris Sale, Corey Kluber, Anthony Rendon and Mike Trout) won’t be available for teams to acquire in a trade. The top three free agents (Yu Darvish, J.D. Martinez and Eric Hosmer) aren’t anywhere near as valuable in terms of expected WAR output as Stanton.

    Teams perceive his remaining contract as close to market value- According to these three tweets from Jon Morosi of FOX Sports, multiple teams told the Marlins that the remaining 10 years and $295MM left on Stanton’s contract are a pretty good estimate of what he’d earn on the open market, were he a free agent this offseason.

    He has a lot of power over his own fate- Not only does Stanton have a full no-trade clause in his contract, but he also has the ability to opt out after the 2020 season, at which point he’d leave 7 years and $218MM on the table in search of a new deal. The opt-out makes trading him even more complicated, as it caps the contract value upside for his would-be new team. Meanwhile, the full no-trade protection gives him enormous leverage in the process. Many teams would love to add Stanton to their lineup, and the Marlins are looking to shed payroll. Ultimately, this means the Fish may not end up being able to accept the best offer, and could have to simply settle for the proposal from the city Stanton wishes to play for most.

    The Marlins’ leverage over him is nonzero- While Stanton is a coveted asset and enjoys no-trade protection, he’s made it well-known that he isn’t interested in being around for a rebuild. The slugger’s desire to leave Miami could result in him approving a trade he’s not thrilled about just to play for a contender. On the other hand, it could also result in a tense game of chicken between Stanton and the Marlins to see who will bend first. Although the Marlins have a firm mission to shed payroll, they can do so in other ways; they don’t actually have to trade Stanton at all. And as much as Stanton wants to be traded, he might be willing to hold out for a team of his choice and risk staying put. The case is fascinating.

    Some evaluators believe the Marlins’ asking price is unrealistic- While Miami’s asking price isn’t entirely clear, it seems as though they’re looking for a team to pay all (or nearly all) of his salary while including prospects. This has led some to suggest that the Fish need a “reality check” in terms of their asking price. If the contract is indeed roughly market value, then it’s difficult to imagine that a team will give up good prospects for the privilege to pay Stanton his full dollar value over the course of the deal.

    He prefers to play near a coast- While this doesn’t seem to be a firm deal breaker, it complicates matters for teams like the Cardinals and Phillies, who have the payroll space and prospect depth to swing a trade for the prolific slugger.

    The Cardinals and Giants have made formal offers- The Giants were the first to officially submit a trade proposal, with the Cardinals following suit later that same week. This doesn’t mean the trade discussions are finished; those trades could still be tweaked or even scrapped entirely in favor of starting from scratch. But the fact that there are at least two offers on the table gives the Marlins some options to weigh for the time being. It’s not known what those offers are, however, though we do know that the Cardinals included Sandy Alcantara in their proposal. It’s equally uncertain whether Miami even takes those offers seriously.

    As many as eight teams are engaged in talks for him- While only six of those eight teams are thought to be serious pursuers, the fact that so many teams are showing strong interest bodes well for Miami and their power in negotiations. In addition to the Cardinals and Giants mentioned above, we know that the Dodgers, Phillies and Red Sox have had some level of dialogue with the Marlins. The Yankees, too, have reportedly done their due diligence, though it doesn’t sound as if they’re actively pursuing Stanton.
     
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    Wonder what he based the really really bad when the stats don't show it. Can you educate me CKWG. He was our only left handed hitting 2nd baseman to boot. AGAIN he wasn't expensive and didn't have to be put on the 40 man roster for 3 more seasons.

    This is what he Glaser wrote in our top 10 spec list:

    Weaknesses: The middle infield is the system’s one true weak spot. While that is not a problem at shortstop with Corey Seager there for the long-term, there aren't many inspiring options to play second base. The Dodgers will likely have to make a position change with someone already on their big league roster or engineer a trade to find their long-term second baseman.
     
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    I guess what's puzzling is how someone who wants to be a major league player and has that chance can't work on at least one defensive position. Yes, I know, we're talking about big time baseball and very few possess those skills, but even LF is not a possibility? Is he completely butterfingers and Yakety Saks out there? His only chance now is DH for an AL team?

    I kinda blame the coaching then. If he has an active bat....why not work on those skills after all these years. Not just the Dodger coaching but all through his development. What a waste.

    Perhaps the FO could have at least engineered a trade instead of just releasing him? Assuming that wasn't already tried of course.

    I guess relative to others around him in the minors, the Dodgers just have too many players with a combination of skills, especially those who might help the pitching staff with some defense, to keep him? Just guessing.
     
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    Alex Guerrero says hola.
     
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    Where's UZR?
     
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    That was probably a mix of scouts that saw him and his own findings based on his wording. His O numbers were good, but at 29 and in AA they damn well better be. My guess is the org agreed that he held no value going forward, hence the release. Just cause we don’t have a ton of depth at 2B, doesn’t mean you have to keep a guy around who can’t field the position.
     
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    I'm with you on the defensive side, it was sort of a question when he was signed. But as far as the bat goes, he did what was expected of him. If he was 29 and not raking in AA, people would be giving him shit, so he gets cred for handling his business at the plate even though he was clearly a cut above that level offensively. Perform wherever they put you
     
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    as tough as it is to believe
    some just don't possess defensive skills
    they've probably been such great hitters for so long at every level that they've never had to learn to play d
    scouts used to have a saying for a good hitter/poor fielder...
    "that bat will play"
     
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    We have a dearth of right handed hitters but ONLY Gavin Lux hits left but ok I can accept your assessment.

    Edit: We still have Arruebuena on this team and he hasn't done squat but Jose is gone lol.
     
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    hilarious
    your hit .167/.231/.208 in the series and you've got the nerve to wear a "we beat la" shirt?
    the only time you beat la was when you played here
    idiot

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    What is up with this guy? He played like crap for us, and it’s our fault? Did schnukums not get enough hugs and kisses from Roberts?

    What a baby.

    Plus talk about the overcompensation complex from that picture alone.
     
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    This is like the Lonzo ball situation except with baseball minus the crazy father.

    The hype this guy is stirring up....dude he better be good.

    The thing is, is this guy really that special that for more than 100 years MLB hasn’t had a dual threat like this since Babe Ruth, and even he is still known primarily as a hitter.

    Or will he just be okay at both pitching and hitting at the MLB level?
     
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    • Dodgers first baseman Adrian Gonzalez has a full no-trade clause – not a partial NTC – agent Jim Boggs tells Nick Cafardo of The Boston Globe. Regardless, coming off a back injury-shortened season in which he accounted for minus-1.1 fWAR in 252 plate appearances, finding a taker for Gonzalez, 35, figures to be a tall task for the Dodgers. LA may simply eat the $21.5MM Gonzalez is owed next season in order to jettison him, Cafardo suggests.
     
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    guy hasn't even signed yet and he's already a pain in the ass
    beginning to feel like he's going to be a huge bust
     
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    fucken idiot
    leave baseball alone you fucken hack
    the game was fine for over 100 years but you and selig felt the need to start tinkering
    want to do something productive that helps baseball?...
    resign
    fucken skinheaded gap-toothed fuck

    Manfred to implement 20-second pitch clock for 2018 season
    by Matt Borelli | Dodger Blue — 25 minutes ago

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    In an effort to improve the time of games, MLB commissioner Rob Manfred has prioritized pace-of-play initiatives since assuming office in 2015. That season, games averaged 2 hours and 56 minutes — which was down six minutes from the year prior.​

    Manfred has since eliminated the intentional walk, in which pitchers had to deliver four balls to the plate. He has also limited replay officials in New York to two minutes in which they must review challenged plays.

    Despite recent attempts to speed up games, Manfred’s goal has not yet been achieved. The average time of games has gradually increased over the previous two seasons, to an even three hours in 2016 and three hours and five minutes in 2017.

    Manfred is once again focusing his attention on pace-of-play and hopes to implement a pitch clock of 20 seconds for the 2018 season, per Buster Olney of ESPN:

    “But the foundation of the changes to come in 2018 will be in the implementation of a pitch clock, sources say, and MLB is intent on using the same limit used in the minor leagues the past three seasons — 20 seconds between pitches when there are no runners on base.”

    Manfred has made it known that a pitch clock will be established, with or without the approval of the union. Manfred added that he prefers an agreement to be reached between both parties, but made it clear that rule changes will be enforced next season no matter what.

    Los Angeles Dodgers right-hander Pedro Baez led all qualified relievers with a time of 31.1 seconds in between pitches. The average time in between pitches for starting pitchers was slightly above the 20-second threshold, at 23.5 seconds, so many pitchers will be forced to speed up their routine between pitches.
     
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    He's already had health issues in Japan from playing too much, and even Babe Ruth, who we call a 2-way star, only played impactful time at both for 2 seasons. Otani isn't the first baseball player to be extremely good on both sides in the past 100 years, far from it. This hype is doomed to fail.

    It's a little high maintenance, but it might just be him doing his due diligence. On the surface it looks like he's fishing for a team that will let him play both ways. I hope not, but time will tell.
     
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