DODGERS NEWS/RUMORS thread

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  1. Finski

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    While I get your point, and Mitchell's, I take a sideways angle to that.

    There's more wrong with baseball's appeal than LAD greed and TV watchability. While MLB makes billions and apparel keeps selling, the NBA, NFL, MLS, and the NCAA have exceeded or are gaining on pro baseball merchandise. Baseball lost its appeal outside of a given market. When I went to Ireland in 1989, I saw kids wearing Dodgers, Yankees, and even Philly & Cincy hats ( believe it or not, the P or C on the cap was a coded way of saying you were Protestant or Catholic in the north. Later, it became Pepsi/Coke to determine what your religion was, since nobody wanted to say Protestant or Catholic for fear of getting blown up or killed...). Now, you see NBA and NFL gear, even NHL ... but MLB is not a thing worldwide, at least not like it used to be.

    ... I also think that the ability to watch the local team is a bit overvalued. Yes, it is relevant, but my fanaticism of the Dodgers wasn't based on it. I had 162 on radio and KTTV for maybe 20 games a year. My students now... .any have Spectrum, but the game- if they care - is background. They are on a computer or a tablet or a smartphone while the game is on. Take my word - I've asked. The majority of kids I know 'watch' sports on a DVR or Tivo, surf the web as they do, and if they miss a big play, they back it up and get it that way.

    As much as young fans are already missing seeing the Dodgers on TV, they were watching the team less BEFORE this God-awful exclusive contract came along.

    Still, your concern is mine, too. I hope and pray that my children will baseball as much as I do, and I'm raising them to love the Dodgers and the game, but already, my oldest daughter wants to play soccer at school, not softball. They don't offer softball until she's in 6th grade, but they offer soccer from TK all the way up; ditto hoops.
     
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    Outside of the really fascinating info on the bb caps in Ireland, ( I guess if you're a non- believer you wear an Atlanta Braves hat?), I kinda get that there is very little or no future for baseball eventually, in your opinion.
    As valid as anyone else's, for sure, but I'm glad I won't be around to witness it should it occur.
     
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  3. Finski

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    I didn't express that well ... I rambled quite a bit. Sorry.

    Basically,, MLB may screw the pooch in the next decade, but something tells me LA will endure... if for no other reason than they're such a huge market.

    Anyway ... it's horseshit, the whole TV thing. I hate it, too.
     
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    For me, a far, far cry from rolling around actually fighting as a kid over who was better...Mickey, Willie, or the Duke.
    Like George said, "All things must pass", I guess.
     
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    It's pretty embarrassing to go out to a restaurant with your friends or family and the Angels are on instead of the Dodgers
     
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    Great point.
    I didn't even consider that.
    Unspeakable, shocking horror...
     
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    Fair point.

    I noticed that a week or so ago, and all I could think was ... nobody was watching the game. No shit. 20 people in the place, waiting for a table, and that game had zero focus.

    Again ... it's been awhile since I watched a game at a sports bar. Do people still do that? And by people ... I mean homosexuals. And by homosexuals ... I mean @irish
     
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    Guy always takes such pleasure in shitting on the Giants. Damn shame he's not hitting in the heart of LAD's order..better yet, leading off instead of Joc/Pollock

     
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    Nah, there's nothing he can really do this year to justify 13 years in my mind. Okay, I may take that back if the Phillies win it all this year and next, but that's not going to happen simply because Harper is not THAT impactful of a player.
     
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    Nah, nobody's that impactful of a player, that they're going to join that Philly team and put them over the top. Halos have Trout..obviously, he's been a 1 man gang in terms of impact for his whole career and have they won it all? What Harper does in Philly is separate from what he could've meant to the Dodgers' chances at multiple titles, leading off in front of Belli for the next 10+ years or whatever. If anybody should've been forking over whatever it takes for Harper, it should've been a team that's on the doorstep of winning a WS annually like LAD.

    VS RHP, .841 OPS
    VS LHP, .864 OPS..

    ..all we do is complain about Roberts' lineup inconsistencies..bums like Negron hitting 3rd yesterday. Think those OPS splits by Harper this season would offer the Dodgers' any lineup consistency at the top? You prefer the Joc/Pollock duo and all of their inconsistency? One guaranteed to be hurt and/or ailing, and the other absolute trash for month long stretches? There's nothing Harper could've done to justify 13 years from perennial WS fave LAD? BS.
     
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    The Harper, then Belli, then Muncy or Turner or Seagar is an awesome thing, should it have happened.
    Tired of hearing that some of the best signings are the ones they didn't make.
    So are some of the worst.
     
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    I get frustrated by this team's offensive "WTF" games, too ... but at +186 run differential, I will take the chance that the Dodgers have the power to outslug and outscore any team in MLB in a five or seven game series.

    That isn't the problem. The problem has dreadlocks and thinks he's Bob Marley meets Eckerlsey, and he isn't, while the Efftards and Robots think he's Christ Almighty.

    If Kenley could just have a slightly crippling accident, this team might just break their WS streak. But something tells me I'll be watching some other team raise that trophy this fall. But then, I'm a cynic.
     
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    Postseason ball is just different. Same thing we keep finding out every year when we roll into the post with a powerful offense and they fail to carry their weight because guys' flaws get exposed. When the timing is there to add one of the most talented hitters in the game that's in his prime, gotta do that. Can't get wrapped up in the reg-season winning where the focus isn't as great game to game and the opposition is weak more than half the time.

    Take the Astros for example..the Astros have a core of big impact players that are in their prime, and older/experienced vets that are still performing like they're in their prime. Meanwhile, our biggest impact guys aren't. Turner is down and likely trending downward moving forward..this is our most reliable postseason guy. As great as Belli has been, he's not in his prime and doesn't have great postseason experience..even though he won LCS MVP, overall it wasn't a strong run for him. Our prime guys are Muncy ( a trash bin pick up from last year) and Joc. Just sayin. Is the postseason a crap shoot? To a degree, yeah. And LAD does come to the crap shoot with a bunch of chips, but they're also 3/4's blind with no arms.
     
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    great post
    postseason is indeed a crapshoot
    and while having the more weapons guarantees nothing...
    why wouldn't you do whatever you could to increase your chances?
    especially for a team that's just fallen short two straight seasons (and a 30+year dry spell)
    attendance figures are great... for ownership
    but to essentially shit on the fans who pay for everything is an insult
    $18 beers would be a lot easier to stomach had they picked up kimbrel
     
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    Can't downgrade Muncy because he was garage sale pickup. He's been good even since he was placed in the lineup and plays against both LH and RH.

    No comparison between he and Joc, who shits himself at the sight of a LH.

    As for the postseason, if the current version of Bellinger is 2019 postseason Bellinger, they're fucked.
     
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    Offensively, this team maybe the best in the majors.

    But the closer role really has me worried. If Jansen is going to need feminine products come October, we're screwed. Pitching matters in the post. Go ask CK.
     
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    Just the facts. Muncy's proven himself, but there's levels to this discussion. Are we placing Muncy on the same level as Harper? Same level as Altuve, Bregman, etc.? No, no, no. Half the time we aren't even sure where Muncy will play defensively and if he can get the job done when it matters both offensively and defensively.

    But yeah, it's definitely fun to have a young core of talented guys, but do the chickens come home to roost when it's time for big boy ball in OCT? That's the gamble you take when being led by young guys. They had a chance to slot a star in his prime in the middle of it all and take pressure off some of these kids and older fading guys and they blew it.
     
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    Especially when you consider what they were willing to spend on. Smh
     
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    There was nothing..nothing..they were going to be able to do in the reg-season to impress me this season. Already knew they were going to have their way with the NL..they are smack in the middle of a 1990's Braves run as far as dominating the NL. It's just a fact. They have it all going for them. But can't even just enjoy a great reg-season because this what LAD does to you.

    I was strictly looking for power moves that'd increase their chances of winning in OCT. Even the Braves said to hell with it and went out and locked in Fred McGriff, who was in his prime and an established star, to get them over the top. Kasten and his attendance fuckery had to be one of the worst moments..right up there with McCourt not being able to afford his own fuckin payroll
     
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    No. This is leagues better than McCourt.
     
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