FEDIT POLITICS Thread

Discussion in 'Los Angeles DODGERS' started by CapnTreee, Aug 12, 2016.

  1. Gebbeth

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    http://www.cbpp.org/research/propos...d-help-low-wage-workers-with-little-impact-on

    Center on Budget and Policies Priorities. Look at the Board....this is not a bunch of raving liberals.

    Raising the minimum wage would benefit the lower income people who predominately obtain these jobs out of necessity and help them in the long run with no appreciable effect on employment.....assuming these corporations are really looking out for their service workers rather than their golden parachutes.
     
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    mcdonalds jobs rare not mindless burger flippers anymore
    they are factory workers
    making factory burgers in an assembly line using factory machines
    in n out on the other hand are burger flippers
    and they have always paid 11 dollars an hour to start you off since i was a kid
    true conservative company, not right wing pseudo conservative panderers.
    doing whats right by their workers
    you never hear in n out workers protesting or asking for money
    true conservative companies dont have these problems
    mcdonalds should pay more
    but not because anyone forces them to pay more
    they just should
    like in n out does
     
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    I once said something here about taking a job as a 'sleazy car salesman' as kinda a joke and someone kinda scolded me a little bit about calling car salesmen sleazy.
    But the way i meant it is that its sorta easy money sleazy. To sell a a car you gotta use confidence type tactics. Be a little bit showman a little bit conman. That acting and salesmanship to me is a little demeaning to my humanity.
    But you can make good money. And ultimately that is a car salesmans only true motivation. Making fast money without any hard work.

    Everyone wants to make big money, drive big cars and have everyone know them as superstars.
    Yeah, thats from a song, but its true.
    Thats the new american way.
    But there is a better way.
    Anyone can start a business. You dont need loans. Thats the way of thinking of the new american who thinks money has to be easy.

    You can farm. Weed is not the only high paying cash crop in america. And folks in the northern tundra like places in the country are farming exotic tropical fruit under cheap portable car covers built out of PVC pipe and tarps... in the snow.
    A little manure goes a long way to keep a tightly wrapped makeshift greenhouse warm enough to cause a tropical effect.
    Folks sell organic backyard raised chickens for 20 bucks a pop and sell them online and ship em Fed Ex in 99 center store bags made airtight by submerging them in water till the water pushes out the air and then sealing them with heat before putting them in a carboard box with a little bit of dry ice to keep em from spoiling on the trip to the consumer. Folks pay you 20 lbs for a 4 lb chicken.
    You can raise tilapia in cheap above ground pools you can buy at walmart for a couple hundred bucks and watch them multiply fast.
    You can raise microgreens where you are harvesting weekly and selling to resturauntaurs who pay top dollar.
    Or you can turn your front and back yards into fields of green onions, cilantro, and radishes where you harvest every couple or every few weeks and sell to all the mexican restaurants who cant get enough of this stuff on the daily.
    It is easy money. But not easy as in not having to actually do work.

    Cheap menial jobs are for those who are either physically or mentally unable to get a degree or get into business for themselves.
    And then if that is your lot in life you must learn to be happy with the fact that you even have a job, that this country provides ways for people without much physical skills or mental ability or spiritual will to at least squeeze out somewhat of a living.

    Because to make it in america you have to either work hard, work smart, or be a cunning linguist who can get others to spend their money on what you can make, say, or do. AKA a creator/entrepreneur.
    If you cant do any of that then be poor materially but be super rich in other ways.
    Or else you will be a miserable fuck that wants what you dont got.
    And you will never be happy.
     
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    Abono.
    Its manure.
    To plant trees in.
    Planting trees is a noble cause.
    Someone has to actually dig a hole though.
    Anyone can do it but few actually want to do it.
    Actually not just anyone can do it, you have to learn how to do it right.
    To make trees 5 times faster while providing bumper crops at least twice a year.
    Thing about planting trees is that they dont necessarily have to stay where you planted them.
    Folks can sponsor the planting of a tree by a homeless man who gets a gift for providing the planting service.
    Then that tree can be sold once it reaches a certain number of months for beaucoup bucks to any of the local landscapers.
    Who you partner with to allow access to the fruit from said trees to then give to the tree planters or sell to local farmers markets.
    Either way you slice the pie everyone gets a cut when you start from manure and it aint sleazy when the money is growing on trees.
     
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    money dont make you poor
    upward mobility has nothing to do with income
    before hippies became old liberals they used to say stuff like 'you are a prisoner of your own mind'.
    and thats the gods honest truth.
     
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    the problem isn't mcdonalds
    the problem is people wanting more without being willing to do more
    wages are [paid] in accordance with the task being performed
    has no obligation to exceed whatever the minimum wage/law requires
    if someone wants to earn more they should seek employment elsewhere -- like in n out
     
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    That is half the problem. Investment banking hasnt gotten any tougher relative to the same profession in the 70's than it is now. BUT investment banking income growth has multiplied about 1000X. Believe me,I worked in the industry...its become outrageous. Same with CEO pay.

    That's not the same with minimum wage. No one is saying it should be $50 an hour and experience the same growth, but it shouldn't stay static either. The min wage law started in 1938 at $.25 an hour, equivalent to $4.00 today. It has been raised only 22 times since then....in 73 years only 22 times.

    How much has executive pay increased since then.

    Min wage laws were created not because there was a sub-class of pseudo temporary jobs....it was because there were very permanent job, employing a good chunk of the US for which there was no standard for pay.

    Do we realy believe that the whole of min wage jobs are meant to be temporary? Are they all too lazy to jump to he next level? Look at the people who are serving you...not all are teenage temps, or losers with no ambition. For a good chunk of people, this is how they support themselves because there is nothing otherwise available. Do we just leave them by the side of the road?
     
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    How are they by the side of the road?
    If you make min wage you can live just fine.
    You just can't do shit where u gotta spend money.
    You gotta buy only clearance clothing.
    Drive used cars or take the bus.
    Use free phones even if they are shitty.
    Eat cheap veggies cooked at home.
    Buy lots of potatoes and boil them. eat boiled egg and boiled cabbage for lunch.
    Cut your addiction to consumerism and materialism.
    Those are traps that make you a wage slave. you gotta make money to feed your addictions that gratify your senses.
    If you have low income your best bet is to follow a rather stoic and spartan lifestyle.
    You will be healthier physically and psychologically that you were before or than your peers. it builds strength of body and character .
    Once you realize how much stuff you actually don't need you will find that the poor people are the needy. those that need all that stuff you have learned to do without.
    That is what this country is about.
    But a veil has been thrown over our eyes so u go blind and get lost in its netting.
    That veil is the trapdoor pit that is consumerism/materialism/sensualism.
    By sensual I don't mean sexual I mean the gratification of your 5 senses.
    Because through the senses is how they get you to lose your good sense.

    Pierce that veil to get to the American dream. Or cry like a child all your life that others make more and have more and its nor fair. You should learn about fair the first time you go to he fair as a biy and learn how rigged it is.
    Fair is artificial manipulation by power.
    Mommy it's not fair!
     
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    Really?? This is girl crying because a Trump merchandise peddler looked at her wrong? And (of course) the policeman did nothing.

    You are REALLY citing that crying girl as an example of a "Trump hate crime"

    With a link that goes to "Confederate patriots of America, Inc." facebook page?

    wow. Are you really going there?? :smh:
     
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    pretty sure diablo was being sarcastic
     
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    Pretty sure ol' Diablo is himself a Trump lovin' fool too
     
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    It was Diablo who made her cry.
     
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    he does that to a lot of bkitches
    it's why the stick around
     
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    so now i'm a fool.
    nice.
    and Russia is why pillory lost and you would have rather had that bitch as the leader.
    pretty sure you are the one exposing himself as the tool.
     
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    Only the fedit bkitches.
     
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    So other than hacking the DNC and exposing corruption, is there any evidence the Russians manipulated the actual voting process?
     

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