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Discussion in 'Los Angeles DODGERS' started by CapnTreee, Aug 12, 2016.

  1. LAdiablo

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    doesn't need to be a nasty conversation but do you honestly think anyone on the left can beat the guy?
    i know you want it to happen but w this economy and after the impeachment debacle don't you think the target should be 24?
     
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    What a nerd.
     
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    I had a dream.
    But shit went down hill as it does every fall.
    But hey... Spring is coming.
     
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    There are ways.
    Playing dirty.
    Like a social media campaign directed at Hispanics to boycott McDonalds and for Blacks to boycott KFC as they are Trump's favorite places to eat.
    Both companies would come out against the president to protect their market.
    It would mobilize the two groups the Democrats most need to get riled up to vote.
     
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    We've had our differences which is cool (and I'm cool) but I only posted because the Hillary stuff IMHO was ludicrous. Now. My feelings toward that individual in the WH aside I will admit that my 401K has been really good but not everyone is fortunate to have stocks. The economic numbers are favoring a certain demographic but there are far more people hurting than thriving. The impeachment attempt was lame in the fact that the senate was never going to have to the balls to convict but what it means for my party going forward remains to be seen. What will Bolton's book reveal or subsequent books will who knows. I just don't think we can judge a in February and only 2 states down.
     
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    i don't think its that ludicrous
    she's been out there commenting on everything and even being coy about jumping in
    there's a lot of democrat money that still isn't on the table and the current field, to be generous, is pretty lackluster
    i own a bit of stock as well but no 401k since i had to cash mine in from the last move i made just to cover taxes on the acquisition of my school
    and i have begun to thrive somewhat after some of the worst years of my life in which i was almost financially decimated by CA government
    its more complicated then that but CA for sure was in there w their sledgehammer doing their best to smash me
    i see economic and employment numbers that allow every demographic a chance at having the success/failures i've had if they follow some basic tenents
    deny instant gratification, save, invest and be consistent
    its harder now but then again it always has been
    the policies of dems and repubs have been selling that dream down the hole for decades and this guy you hate so much has revived them by most accounts
    not sure what a butt hurt war mongerer like bolton can say that will make any difference
    he's just another career politician that didn't get the glory he felt he deserved and that was to destroy iran
    excuse me if i find it bizarre when someone like him is championed by liberals
    i truly get why people hate the man but don't see what that has to do w the job
    i think most Americans (its not a bad word) are doing better and that's all i really care about
    the homeless issue is a different conversation but i just don't see any message from an increasingly socialist left that spells anything but disaster
    glad to hear your portfolio is doing well btw peace
     
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    Absolutely.

    The number of Americans who dislike Trump can't be overstated. Like I said in another post, whoever the nominee is on the Democratic side will have 40% of the vote automatically, 60 million votes will come baked in just for having a "D" next to their name. Now, I can also see any of the Democratic candidates losing to Trump. Based on everything I've seen this figures to be a close race, no one is positioned to blow the other side away.

    My bold predictions:
    • Pete Buttigieg wins the Democratic nomination and general election
    • Buttigieg wins Texas, which has gotten closer and closer to a swing state
    • The Democrats flip the Senate (there are 23 Republican Senate seats up this election)
     
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    thats a bold prediction alright
    imo its obvious we were ready for a black president in this country
    pretty clear we were ready for a woman president if it hadn't been pillory
    but a gay president?
    no way
    absolutely no way the black/hispanic/middle of the country puts two guys in the white house
    i'll bet everything i own on that one
     
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    I guess we'll see. As a Trump supporter are you rooting for Buttigieg to win the Democratic nomination then?
     
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    i don't think it really matters tbh
    and i guess because i support the values only Trump seems to be working on it makes me a supporter
    first president in my lifetime that has actually attempted and succeeded in actually doing what he promised to do
    did you see the NH returns? i don't think its going to be close
    there isn't much about the man i like and i get why people hate him but that has zero to do w the job he's doing
    Dow approaching 30,000 thats insane
     
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    This will never happen. Racist?
     
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    Hillary is leaving the door open for a return. Pretty sure that everything will be even going into the convention and they way they screwed Bernie in 2016, the dems have no shame and will do it again. The whole idea of "super-delegates" tells me everything I need to know about their process. Ludicrous, maybe, but impossible no way.
     
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    This concerns me more than the presidential race. If the republicans lose the Congress, the 30,000 dow will disappear, 401K's will shrink, and nothing will get done for 4 years.
     
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    In 2008 the Democrats won the House, Senate, and President, and the Dow went up more in the following 3 years than it has during Trump’s 3 years of presidency.

    https://www.macrotrends.net/2481/stock-market-performance-by-president
     
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    are those the same people that say this is Obamas economy atm?
    i mean i've been involved in business my entire life and have never seen an economic downturn like the one that took place in 08
    whether it was starting in 07 or affected by the flaccid Bush year is speculation
    only things i saw go up were unemployment and my debt
    trying to sell democrats as good for business is pretty hard to do
    then again i don't think republicans are much different anymore
    i vote for less government and more of my money in my pocket tyvm
     
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    ^^This proves my point although I do not recall my 401K doing this well in 2008...

    They had all 3 branches of government so things could happen. Trump wins but loses the Congress, lame duck for 4 years and the economy will be stagnate as well.

    Good economy and Americans first is all I really want. Oh yeah, and a Dodger World Series win would be nice...
     
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    btw appreciate views that oppose mine
    i might not understand and we can disagree without calling each other names or throwing shame
    enjoy fact based debate and its cool to have guys w opposing views post in the fedit politics thread
    historically i've found the democratic party to hold views i agree with and was a liberal into my mid 20s
    voted for slick willy and even ralph nader
    but i have trouble even relating to what this current group is selling
    free speech and free markets
     
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    Bush was president in '08 when things crashed. The Democrats that won the 2008 elections took office in 2009. The market continued to tank at the beginning of '09, but it recovered and did better in the first 3 years than what it has done during the Trump years.

    The reality is the President has only a loose effect on the economy, but if you really want to praise/blame everything that happens to the economy on the President (many people do) then it's worth pointing out that the worst economic crash in the past 50 years happened while there was a Republican president, at the end of his presidency.

    As a Democrat I recognize that if the economy is doing well at election time, it will play in the incumbent's favor. As a person who works in the investing industry, I hope it's doing well.
     
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