he wouldnt as the Dodgers were not gonna go 7 years on him... that's just too much, but the Yankees are desperate and just unloaded AR0d's contract...
i wasn't all in on him. it would have been nice to add him but unless he was going to be on the level of kershaw and grienke i thought it would disrupt the balance of the rotation. at least at the money the yankees threw at him. and i think you can count the number of successful SP coming from Asian countries on one hand. 7 years? wow. he is going to feel pressure unlike any he has ever felt. and i hope it works out for him. but can you imagine if he has trouble early and those NY fans start in on him? better have a formidable constitution.
Bowden was just saying on MLB radio that he feels Tanaka jumped into the meat grinder. The Yanks have a ton of pressure to do well and now at that money, he will be looked at as the teams ace and will hear about it if he doesn't pitch like one. He said he personally would have taken the Dodgers offer where he could have come into the league and gone at his own pace behind two of the games best. We'll certainly see how he responds to the pressure. As for myself, I am definitely bummed we missed out on him. Sounds like he did what CC did and came to us last asking for us to get a little closer to the Yanks offer so that he could go to LA, but I understand the club not budging. He got an extra year, which sounds like something we were not interested in and a no trade clause which is something Kasten is against. Sorry we didn't get Tanaka, but I'm glad we didn't pay more than Greinke to get him.
I wanted him. No question. I DO Not want him at that price. If I knew beyond a shadow of doubt, he would put up Greinke numbers--yes. However, as was noted earlier, look at the other ERAs of other starters in same league who have not fared as well here. The Yankees won him. Give them credit. As of now, he is the enemy. I want to see him get lit up and the Yankees on the collar for the remaining. So be it. Let them talk shit. They do not want to start comparing teams. There is another way of looking at it. Previously mentioned were Garza and the other future FAs. Scherzer and Price will not be resigned. Not happening. Chances are one or both are traded midseason. I do not see them taking an extension. That means at least one or both will come as an FA with NO DRAFT attached. Garza is interesting to me in a few ways. I am not his biggest fan. He has shit the bed more than once. However, on a short deal , as a number 3 or 4, and pitching in the NL West, dude could be good. Very good. If we could play it right, we could actually make a bit off him. Think of it. We sign him to a short deal and then flip him if Bills is back and ready. We lose the contract and gain prospects.
I'm in agreement with what most of you have said already. He would have been nice to have but not at that contract. If he ends up being great so be it, he's in the AL and the only time we'd see him is in inter league play and/or the World Series. I'd rather spend that type of money on proven commodities. Hanley needs to be extended and price would look great in dodger blue. Now let's move on and find infield depth and a 5th starter.
So Shaikin is now reporting that the Yankees and Cubs blew away our offer. The team felt he is exactly what many of us had heard early on, they felt he was a number 2 pitcher and should be paid accordingly(not as one of the 5 best pitchers in the game). I saw in an earlier report, some in the FO even felt he was not viewed as being better than Ryu. That was a little surprising to me. I guess the team also wasn't too confident in his long term abilities to be a great pitcher. We've done well on the Int market lately, it will be very interesting to see how this one plays out.
If this is true, I have to say I am going with our FO when it comes to pitchers. We rarely miss. Perhaps, the wear and tear on his arm caused them to notice something.
I would look at the recent history of splitter pitchers. That pitch does some damage to your arm and I can only imagine after all the innings he has logged. Shit I threw it a few times and it hurt like hell (naturally my arm was already crap at that time).
In less than two years, Yu Darvish's contract went from a big risk for the Rangers to a major bargain, ESPN Dallas' Richard Durrett writes. Between Darvish's posting fee and six-year contract (plus bonuses), Durrett calculates that Darvish will cost Texas roughly $111MM over the six years, a deal that looks very reasonable compared to the massive contracts signed by other ace pitchers around baseball since the 2010-11 offseason. Masahiro Tanaka, for instance, is set to earn twice as much as Darvish over the next four seasons though most scouts concur that Darvish is the better pitcher.
Everybody here wanted the guy....pretty much unanimously...now he's one another team, and all the "he'll suck, too much pressure, band box stadium he will pitch in, etc. BS comes out. I still don't understand how people "wanted him, but not for that kind of money". What does whatever they would have paid him have to do with any of us? I just don't get it. What difference would one more overpaid player on a team with probably the most in BB make? Kasten is a billionaire right? Or multi-multi -millionaire sitting in the fat cat seat, dripping cash. With loads more to come. He was OK for say, 140 mil, but not OK for what the NYY gave him??? And now, he'll be a bust? I'll be happy if I don't hear is name again( wishful thinking, for sure) all season. Unless it's about a matchup with one of our guys , like CK or Greinke, in October in the WS. He's gone, we didn't get him. But we were willing to pay BIG money for him. But what he did get, is way overboard?
He's a trillionaire? Shit , I didn't even know I was argueing with you. Sort of, just you like Ned, and I don't. Kinda like what the website thing is all about. OK. I'll try and get along without you.
The thing with Tanaka is that he would've been cool to have, but we don't need him. I feel like our reported bid of 6yrs-$120MM was solid. If he wanted to take a discount to sign with us, cool. If not, it's not like we desperately needed him either. The Yankees are someone that absolutely needs him. He may very well be their ace now that Sabathia's velocity is declining. Would've been silly for the Dodgers to be paying their third starter that kind of money. I wouldn't have been against it, but silly nonetheless.
6yrs/120M + the extra 20M going to Rakuten...people always leave that part out. but i would've been fine with that as a winning bid. Beckett MIGHT be our #5 starter if he's lucky and he's due like 14M or something close to it. it is what it is. Tanaka's 25yrs old, so i get it...it wouldn't have been " just adding a #3 starter "...it would have been adding a guy who could grow with our young core and potentially join Kershaw at the top of the rotation for years to come and maybe even be around a while after Greinke is done. a year from now, if Scherzer isn't signed i'm sure we'll probably be in on him and adding him is gonna take at least 150M as well, so either he or Greinke would then be the highly paid #3. the same goes for David Price...if the Dodgers land him he eventually has to be paid. now, maybe Zach Lee or Ross Stripling can make the jump and help us forget about adding another high dollar pitcher...maybe Urias will be ready to roll by 2016. we'll see. but i don't think adding another high dollar pitcher is out of the question...Dodgers just had a limit on Tanaka and it makes sense because he's unproven. proven guys like Scherzer and Price are likely seen in a different light.
just a hunch, but i think detroit extends scherzer The Tigers have cleared a substantial amount of future payroll space over recent months. Whether or not an extension for Scherzer was part of the reason for those maneuvers, Detroit certainly has additional flexibility to fit a new deal. __
lol, espn dude saying the yankees are still a 4th place team http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/hots...ely-make-playoffs-signing-masahiro-tanaka-mlb __
