DODGERS 2017 NEWS/RUMORS/AROUND MLB Thread

Tomorrow night the Diamondbacks are having a "JD Martinez 4 HR Game T shirt" promotion.

 

They can have a subdued celebration on the field, and then have a private celebration later where they can go nuts. Personally I don't want to see them jumping up and down, pouring champagne on each other for this division win.

 

a playoff loss can't be a ripping out for me
that happened in 14
this has been more like a painful acupuncture by a novice acupuncturist
limb by limb and tooth by tooth
heat the pins and stab them in

 

You're so right...what right does anyone have to constantly hound someone?
But it goes on, all the fucking time.
Even right here, in River City.

 

Great post...imo, this is your best ever.
Puts everything in it proper "perspective" and sets the rose colored glasses off to the side, where after this incredible WS nothing for 28 years, should be left.
The psychoanalytical dirge about " bitching" is more of a bitch than ever could be from loyal disappointed fans for decades. Think my way, be a fan my way, or the Harpies will get you.

 

I'm with you on this part. The light hearted, silly shit with this club is tired. Been tired of that corny shit for a while now, and they brought in a manager who fits right in with it. I wanted the FO to bring in Jim Leyland when the Tigers moved on with Ausmus. Find a cranky, old, prickly guy who can set a serious tone and who also has an open mind concerning analytics..it's a tough task, but it's doable with the right approach. In fact, the guy doesn't have to be older at all. Or at least that much older. I still think Utley would be a nice option to walk into the LAD manager spot, if he wants it. Would maybe be a dream for him as a hometown guy. Lately, there have been a handful of manager hires around MLB that have pulled guys in with no managing experience at all and they're doing just fine. Even Joe Maddon, who of course can be silly, knows when to crack the whip. He sets the tone one way and the other. But I don't want to make this completely about Doc because obviously he was just added to this cyclical mess. The entire culture still needs tweaking..rebuilding the farm and getting selfish MFs Kemp and Hanley out was only a start.

If LAD fails to make it to the WS for the 5th year in a row, I'll be all for pushing out a sizeable number of these vets that have been a part of the team's annual failure in the fall. That includes everybody among this year's regulars..everybody other than Seager, Bellinger, Taylor and Barnes, that is. Obviously, those 4 haven't had enough of a crack at October ball. It's just going to be time for more change, IMO. They gave it the good college try, even re-signed some of these SOBs, but to keep rolling them out year after year would be near insanity at that point. Just start moving to the next chapter. Hell, should the FO take aim at Kershaw and see him out if and when he opts out after next season, sad to say, but I won't even rage because obviously he's been a big part of the team's fall fuckery as well. He's failed in every situation, so no excuses. He's failed to begin their post season run in Game 1 on perfect rest..to end their post season in elimination games..with and without elite/all-star caliber help alongside him in the rotation, with lefties pummeling him, etc. He's seen it all. Of course I don't want it to come to that, but a Madbum run for Kershaw just may not be in the cards and with another contract decision looming, it looks murky.

Anyway, I'm sure LAD could find a taker for Turner this winter even though he turns 34 next year and has 3yrs left on his deal..a little proactivity wouldn't hurt here for LAD in the event that they fail to get to the WS again. Move Turner before he declines and DFA his selfie partner Adrian and get him out as well. Obviously, the failure will not have been all their fault either, but they will have had enough opportunities after this run and that's just that. Turner + Yadier Alvarez + Ryu + Joc + McCarthy + Kike could maybe fetch Stanton. DBB would welcome Turner for sure and they do need a 3B pretty bad in Miami. Plus, of course DBB loves Joc, has always compared him to CarGo, so perhaps he'd pound the table for him as well.

Would also be all for seeing Puig pushed out the door as well if LAD fails again..although, his contract status has to be terrifying for FOs everywhere given the volatility in his performance from 1 year to the next. If Puig still doesn't put anything together in the post season this year, the FO should get out ahead of that one as well and just move on. Still hard to see them committing long term/big money to Puig when he hits market in a couple years anyway. He should represent at least some value this time around given his reg-season production, and since he's finally respecting his profession. I sell, sell, sell before it comes crashing back down. LAD including Puig in a big deal along with Turner and company to bring back more than just Stanton from Miami would be ideal..target LA's other homeboy Yelich. Although, Miami would probably play the anti-Puig card given all of DBB's past problems with him, and with Puig's team control dwindling on top of that, LAD would likely have to throw in a sweetener or even two. Yelich being on that sweetheart of a contract with far more team control, and just being more reliable than Puig in general, won't help LAD get him for a whole lot less than Stanton. They'd maybe have to send a young arm with upside along with Puig, and then possibly another one or two arms that are further away as well. We may be talking something like Puig + Mitchell White + Dennis Santana + Caleb Ferguson to get Jeter to give up a young player like Yelich on that contract.

So all in all, Turner + Puig + Alvarez + Ryu + White + Santana + Joc + McCarthy + Ferguson + Kike for Stanton and Yelich. Smh I know. Hardly ever see any monster trades like that, but they've happened. A lot of them came in a different time, but the Yanks and O's once swapped 18 players, Tigers and A's once swapped 13, Yanks and A's once swapped 12 and two other times that 12 number has been matched by a couple squads. It happens. Rarely, but it does when the circumstances align perfectly. And the circumstances with new ownership in Miami and a club like LAD that could potentially look to shake things up for a perennial post season flub of a squad would seem to match up if LAD flames out again and is ready to give this group a heart transplant. Perhaps Jeter kicks in 10-15M as well, tied to Stanton, but essentially helping LAD pay for Kazmir's final year. Jeter could give the folks in Miami a semi-accomplished group to root for with that haul and go a good ways in remaking Miami's org in 1 swoop, at least to start out. And then Puig's essentially a son of Miami anyway..lives there in the off-season and his family makes their home there permanently. Of course there's always the Stanton contract issue for fans to tussle with, but if LAD can include some guys with short term salary going back Jeter's way, like above, perhaps it could work out and help LAD clear the lux tax hurdle. And Stanton's contract actually lightens considerably at the very back end in his age 36/37 seasons. Honestly, should LAD fail again in OCT, I'd be OK with Stanton's money sort of sliding into Kershaw's slot in the near future if it came to it. Can't keep doing the same shit over and over and perhaps Stanton and Yelich could give LAD some young hometown spark. Trust me, if Stanton's contract ran through his age 40 season I'd feel differently, but 37 isn't that bad, especially considering the kind of athlete he is. Far better than Pujols' and Miggy's contracts. Stanton pretty much proved this year that bad luck can't hold him down forever.

In that scenario, just turn 3B over to Seager for good. He's been solid defensively @ SS, but if Taylor can step in @ his natural SS spot and make day to day ball less stressful for Seager, cool with that and it could go a long way. And they've at least shown a willingness to move Seager off SS, did so when they pursued Andrelton Simmons a couple years back before Turner solidified 3B. Simmons, who has been awesome for the Halos this year with the work they've done with his bat. Anyway, I'd also flip Yasmani and Forsythe over to Philly, where they'll have ample financial flexibility to sign and keep both of them beyond next season if they so choose. Get Cesar Hernandez in return and whatever else..maybe some young, under the radar arm from their farm. Alfaro has been all over the place with injuries and underwhelming performance in AAA for the Phils, and no guarantee that he sticks at catcher, so they'd probably welcome Yasmani. Anyway, turn 2B over to Cesar Hernandez, who LAD had a lot of interest in before this season. Sam Barnes takes over at catcher for a year and play it by ear with him beyond that. The lineup would be younger, especially at the heart and nary a platoon. Seager 3B/Stanton RF/Yelich LF/Bellinger 1B/Taylor SS/Hernandez 2B/Barnes C/Verdugo CF everyday..lead off with Seager and get him the most ABs. Stanton has a 1.000+OPS in the 2 hole this year, so I wouldn't touch that, and Yelich has had good numbers in the 3 spot behind Stanton..keep that pair back to back. We'd just hope Taylor, Barnes, Hernandez and Verdugo can do their thing in the bottom half. But that's an order with a whole lot less swing and miss and everybody's under 30..hell, everybody's 28 and younger. Bring Darvish back on a team friendly type of deal to get the leg up on Otani and our starters next year would be Kershaw/Darvish/Otani/Wood/Hill/Maeda/Oaks/Kazmir/Buehler/Brock/Stripling/Cingrani if they need him in a spot and Julio perhaps returning at some point in the fall. Keep Font around and add him to that mix and there's still a damn good amount of starter depth even after sending some guys out.

Anyway, yeah, I think after year #5, it's more than likely a good time to shake this group up considerably. The building blocks are in place. Turn the team/clubhouse over to Seager and Bellinger and let them spread their wings. And the target after next season..Kershaw. Blasphemy..I know, and Kershaw is my favorite LAD since '88, but IDGAF if team's ultimate goal isn't being fulfilled. Let these heartless fools fail again in OCT with another Kershaw crash and I'm sure I'll find myself looking over the Rangers' MiLB list and wondering who we can extract from them in a Kershaw trade this winter. Smh I know I wouldn't mind having Willie Calhoun back, for one. And Otani did say that his dream was to pitch against Kershaw. Again, I don't want it to come that, but next year would be pivotal for me on that note.

 

:fl:

 

HOLY SHIT!!! Fall did you not take your meds this AM?

 

Mets in the process of blowing it against the Nationals of course

 

LMFAO


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It's a good sign that this guy is on the hill to start the final regular season homestand of 2017 tomorrow. #OurSeason

 

I guess certain people just don't like the guy, so they make up shit.

 

Yes.

But we will finish one game behind Cleveland for best record in baseball and not make it to the World Series. So it doesn't matter on either account.

 

Lol Thaaat's right, losers. Bochy doesn't give a shit about 3 years ago. You play for the here and now and what's to come in the future.

 

I noticed that when Samardjiza was lifted last night, he didn't even wait for Bochy to get there.

 

Bochey looked clean shaven too.

Looks like he's ready for the off-season.