MINOR LEAGUE/PROSPECTS Thread

meh, Rubby was a freak thing

the Dodgers have historically treated their pitchers well. How the manager treats them is up to the front office. If Torre could have, he might have pitched Kershaw more, but they treated him perfectly

Rubby was in the pen, and his pitch counts were fine for a rookie pitcher

Look at Strasburg. They babied him as well as you can, and he still had to have TJS


I understand what you're saying about his size compared to others, but they really didn't overwork him at all. just a freak thing

 

How was Mattingly in any way irresponsible by letting him reach 60 innings with the big league club? Freak accident, zero people are to blame.

 

The Dodgers have historically treated their pitchers well? are you kidding? Sure, they might have paid them huge bucks and given them Brown-like private jets or whatever, but did you check out Sandy Koufax, Bill Singer, Fernando Valenzuela, etc. They threw even Orel out there to eat up innings, after he was used up...Mike Marshall and yes, even Broxton, who was used to death when he just didn't have it. I'm not saying BB teams shouldn't use what they have, but mistakes are made all the time with pitchers, and the Dodgers are famous for it. They look for "innings eaters" more than anyone else, and always have. At least since the late fifities.
They would've done it to Don Sutton, too, but the guy had a freakish arm.
Rubby was used too much by Mattingly, plain and simple. You can say that about any injury that any player gets, pitcher or position..."it just happened". Sure sometimes it does, and sometimes restraint is needed.
How can you say what was "right" for the kid , what's "fine" for a rookie? Did he get surgery or not? He needed the knife in his rookie season...that has nothing to do with his manager/pitching coach ? It totally was going to happen, regardless ? How about maybe 10,12 less innings, he's doesn't get cut?
That's as valid as a blanket "zero fault" on anyone's part. These fucking guys get paid to deal with such things like rookies and their limitations.
Strasburg doesn't have a thing to do with it either...you can't compare what goes on with someone completely different in body size and mechanics with a guy who is a Dominican slinger.
Anyway, interesting. Just hope the kid comes all the way back. That's what's important.

 

Rubby pitched 60 big league innings and only had 3 100 pitch games and didn't pitch in back to back games a s a reliever. it was a freak thing.
13 games, 60 innings comes out to 4.7 innings per game. what is wrong with that?

the guys you mentioned were all treated perfectly fine until a certain time in the bigs
most of those guys are from a past generation where pitch counts didn't matter. and when they were first brought up, they were treated correctly

 

pitch counts are for pussies

 

Alfredo Silverio scouting report.

http://scoutingthesally.com/los-ang...ospect-alfredo-silverio-scouting-report-vide/

 

They're also 100% responsible for the disappearance of ripped up arms, including permanent damage.

 

So he's awful lol

 

I'm Silverio fan, no doubt.

 

Fangraphs' Marc Hulet ranks the Dodgers top 15 prospects.

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/top-15-prospects-los-angeles-dodgers/

 

Can't wait until I can slot Lee behind Hamels.

Kershaw- Hamels- Lee = Boners

 

Withrow is way too high on that list, and Reed has no business being ahead of Webster.

 

Reed is too high. How is Songco not on the list? How about Van Slyke?

 

^I don't want them on the list. makes us look worse lol

 

Wow, this is a very interesting article about Shawn Tolleson. I can't believe how crazy good he used to be and how much we should thank CK for him being in the Dodgers organization. The future of our BP looks DOMINANT.

http://losangeles.dodgers.mlb.com/n...0206&content_id=26590566&vkey=news_la&c_id=la

 

Complete games were abundant back then for sure but in that Era there wasn't alot of guys to my knowledge throwing the splitter which seems to be an arm damaging pitch. It's interesting to note that in Japan the pitchers throw and throw and throw and they don't seem to break down til they get here and don't throw enough on the side. Bottomline it seems to me that pitch counts while a factor don't cause arm troubles as much as the type of pitches guys throw and their own bodies being more fragile. Add mechanical flaws too with the exception of the freak up north but his time may come.

 

Great story. I hope he works out for us.

And it sure sounds like a Vin Scully story in the making.