NEWS/RUMORS/AROUND MLB Thread (Oct 2016 - Feb 2017)

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  1. Fall Winslow

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    I don't hate Profar as an option.
    2 or 3 years from now, if Profar is with LAD maybe he goes from 2B to SS, Corey to 3B, JT to 1B, Calhoun ( if he can stick) or Lux is at 2B, Bellinger in LF until JT's done a season or two later.
    Rather have Machado in there in a couple years over Profar of course, but not too bad a scenario w/Profar if he comes around.
    Wonder what that trade would look like..TEX just seems to be in the business of blocking their top specs..at some point Gallo needs run too.
    Cesar Hernandez seemed like an option earlier in the off-season from what I remember
     
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    the dodgers pitching coach for most of my childhood
    rip red

    Dodgers longtime Dodgers pitching coach Red Adams dies at 95
    by Eric Stephen | True Blue LA — 5 hours ago

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    Longtime Dodgers pitching coach Red Adams passed away at age 95 on Thursday, the Dodgers announced.

    Adams was the major league pitching coach from 1969-1980 and prior to that was in the organization in some capacity for 11 years. His 12-year tenure as pitching coach is surpassed in franchise history only by his successor Ron Perranoski, who held the position from 1981-1994.

    Rick Honeycutt will enter his 12th season as Dodgers pitching coach in 2017.

    Both the 1977 and 1978 Dodgers media guides use the same quotes from Adams, describing some of his philosophy as pitching coach.

    “I want my pitchers to have a good, sound mechanical delivery — one that would get the most out of his body without risking injury to his arm,” Adams said.

    “A pitcher is a little bit like a fighter,” Adams added. “He’s working his tail of on every play. He’s got to be in great physical condition.”

    Adams’ major league career consisted of eight games pitched in 1946 with the Cubs, allowing 12 runs on 18 hits in 12 innings.

    He also pitched for 19 minor league seasons from 1939-1958, including 14 years in the Pacific Coast League. That included parts of nine different seasons (1942, 1944-1949, 1956-1957) in Los Angeles with the Angels.

    His first two minor league seasons (1939-1940) were with the Bisbee Bears in Arizona, and Adams was scheduled to be one of three former Bisbee players honored in April at Warren Ballpark in Bisbee, near the U.S. border and roughly three hours south of Phoenix.

    "Red Adams is a standard by which every pitching coach should be measured,” said Hall of Famer Don Sutton, who pitched for the Dodgers from 1966-1980, including all of Adam’s tenure. “No person ever meant more to me in my career than Red Adams, and without him I wouldn't be standing in Cooperstown today."​
     
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    I remember Adams for helping transform struggling, but talented pitchers like Jerry Ruess and Al Downing in effective starters for the Dodgers.
     
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    Man, I don't know about Profar. Already injury prone at a young age. Has struggled in limited major league action. I just feel like we will always be talking about his potential and making excuses why he hasn't reached it yet, and why "next year/month/week" will be different (similar to another player on our team). I'd much rather bandaid this thing internally or with a consistent vet than waste years on a player who will never pan out.

    I also think WAY too much is being made out of the idea that one right-handed 2B is the key to solving our problems against LHP. Bottomline, our key players need to do better against LHP, or it will continue to be a problem. If Joc, Adrian, JT, and Grandal all struggle against LHP (or are not trusted against LHP) there's no amount of B lineups with Profar, Kiké, or Dozier that are going to solve that problem.
     
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    I was thinking this when I saw Valbuena sign with the Angels, now MLB Radio is saying that the Angels are planning on trading Yunel Escobar. He could be an interesting target and could come somewhat cheap. The Angels are in search for starting pitching, I wonder if the team could throw in Kazmir or McCarthy just to get them off the books.


    There is also the rumor that the Rangers still consider him one of the games top prospects and are wanting a ton for him. Just doesn't seem like a good match.
     
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    I bet Boras is working hard AF to get Profar moved
     
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    Escobar, definitely
    Not a ton of experience at 2B, but can't be any worse than some of these other options
     
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    I think basically anyone in our Top 15 would slide into the Angels Top 3-4... fucking garbage system
     
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    Yeah the 2 squads make for a pretty good match.
    And then Escobar's ability to play 3B and SS could come in handy as well, solid MLB level depth for when injuries pop up
     
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    He's maybe lost some ability at SS as he's aged, but plenty of experience
     
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    This is where my quantity over quality theory from a week ago could come into play. Offer up like Kazmir, Mieses, Abdullah and Estevez and offer to take back Street as well to lessen the load. Not sure if that is too much or not enough.
     
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    And Street is coming off a pretty bad year, so he shouldn't be too hard to cop along w/Esco
     
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    I would love a player like Escobar. Basically, if we can't get a top 2B option then we should look for a steady vet to hold down the position until we can fill it. Profar's upside is intriguing, but there is so much risk that we could very well be fishing for another 2B before the trade deadline. I just don't see him as a good fit for such an immediate need.
     
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    Puig for Profar straight up.
     
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    So, update on earlier news. According to Bowden this morning, the Dodgers aren't really working hard on anybody right now for 2B. His sources are hearing that the Dodgers believe that they have the Twins starting to squirm a bit and this is them trying for that final push. The club apparently feel they are close enough that they could get a Dozier deal done, but still need the Twins to drop their asking price as they aren't being reasonable yet. They are kicking around ideas to see what it could potentially take to get a new 2B and then would eventually circle back around for a final, "take it or we walk".
    Bowden says that what he is gathering is, that nobody would ever beat the Dodgers current offer. Not now or down he road. Also, Kinsler deal is totally dead.
     
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    That was why I said throw him in, as he's apparently done. It keeps the payroll neutral this year, but opens another 15 mil in space next year.
     
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    Why do I get the feeling an article like this would make the Twins MGT tell Dodger MGT to "F off".
     
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    Twins can be as disappointed as they wanna be about not getting a Sale/Eaton-like haul back for Dozier, but neither of those trades have anything to do with the supply outweighing the demand at Dozier's position and that's really all they should be concerned with here.
    At some point logic should win out...that being said, we know FOs can act really fuckin silly sometimes..the Greinke contract and shitty trades in Arizona, the Desmond contract, basically everything AJ Preller has done, etc.
    Doing ignorant shit just for the fuck of it..that's what LAD has to fight against here..opposing FOs doing ignorant shit just for the fuck of it.
    They don't wanna " take less and look bad "..uhh, everybody's aware of the market..you're gonna look bad anyway if you don't move Dozier for what LAD's offering.
     
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    which begs the question...
    how much does/did minnesota really want to trade him in the first place...
     
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    It is what he said on air, it was not written. This is the biggest reason why it would be dumb for them to say F you "Bowden says that what he is gathering is, that nobody would ever beat the Dodgers current offer. Not now or down he road."
    That is from other GM's. He said that more than a couple of them would take De Leon and run. He is also hearing that the Dodgers are kicking around some potential 3 team and 4 team proposals.
     
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