Discussion in 'Los Angeles DODGERS' started by CapnTreee, Aug 12, 2016.
lol. Don Lemon is such a bitch.
Trump's speech exceeded my admittedly low expectations. The democratic response was lame. Surprise.
It doesn't matter what the President says though. The media has already determined before he spoke that they disagree and will do whatever it takes to make sure his words are distorted or ignored.
You are not smart not to expect ANYTHING from this liar
Nothing matters to liars. OTOH I agree that fellow lying thieves Pelosi and Shumer were abysmal.
Truth: the majority of Americans DO want a wall/barrier. Populist Trump knows little, and lies frequently BUT he's got this one down cold.. and stupid Dem's prove themselves clueless every time they speak.
You know @THINKBLUE that the uber right wing racists haunting DSP tend to slam me as a Lefty by not paying attention to my statements and assume that anyone arguing against pathological liar Trump must be unpatriotic and wrong.. but for the obvious data supporting my statements.
The thing I blanche at is partisan idiot Shumer claiming that a) American's do not want a wall; So untrue, and b) the wall is wasteful and unnecessary, both also completely untrue.
Might a share that Super PAC fundraising to date = GOP $140billion in private undocumented slush funds while the GOP-Lite (Democrats) have raised $40 billion. Note that BOTH are far beyond the nominal costs for a wall so BOTH sides are just lying through their teeth.. for sport. Sure the GOP raised more.. that's what they do and now they personally have 7x what is needed for a wall, so what's holdingthem up? Not willing to spend their 'own' fundraising?? Well then "F" them. At the same time and in the same breath I claim the same for the Democrats who have raised over $40B and yet whine like little girls about "who will pay? how much it will cost" all knowing that they could have purchased it themselves "IF" it wasn't more fun to bkitch about liar Trump.
Further investigation, ignoring ALL slanted sound bites, might I share that our defense budget went from $572B to $634B to $675B under Trump. So exactly how hard can it be to carve $5B out of that $675B? Or compromise on that single line item to get their way?
Oh because Trump cares not one whit for anyone but himself. It's far easier to lie to American's than actually carve $5B out of $675B? So Trump is not willing to give up 0.007% of the desired military budget for his wall? WTF?? Hypocrite much? "I can't accept a compromise that makes me look bad" Hello 'Earth to Fool' you've looked bad for years.
I'm in favor of a wall as explained previously but WTF are Trump and his corrupt GOP idiots shutting down the gubberment for?
What a country we live in...<shaking head in disgust...again>
you miss the point
its not about the money
you don't think the government has the money?
you think the government shuts down for this kind of chump change?
its not about what the people want or dont want
of course many want the wall and of course many dont want the wall
but many that dont want the wall in theory would change their tune if push came to shove
it was also never about the wall
the wall will never be built
mexico has not funded it
mexico is a leader in cement
it is no longer a cement wall
the 'new wall' is not even on the table anymore
it's back to the old metal fencing
which is fine by me as it won't create the problems that the concrete wall would build
it's still going to create too much of a problem for the ranchers in TX to let it through their land
it's a project that will take years to finish and while it is going on folks can say 'trump built the wall' and be happy
but its just propaganda unless he makes it a continuous wall that takes a bunch of land from Americans
this is not the past, its not the 30s or even the 70's
most americans will not take this kind of eminent domain lightly
specially since these have money
if he does that then he will have problems both with people in the republican party and the democrats
cattle industry is a red state deal
cattle industry is dominated by illegal immigrant workers
cattle industry owners are red staters with blue state mentality when it suits them
if you want border security you bring the boys home from war and you station them on the border by the thousands in mobile barracks that can over time be transitioned into refugee administrative centers
there are your jobs right there
that is if you really want border security
if you just want to front you build a wall and you put a few armed soldiers at checkpoints near big cities specially those near the souther border so you can increase control over the american population with the immigrant as your scapegoat
let us see what happens with the soldiers coming home from Syria...
oh look guys a lib calling people who don't agree w him racist!
now there's something you don't see everyday LMFAO
Maybe he should have just implied it instead...
"All the wall examples you gave are walls built by the bad guys when the bad guys still thought they were the good guys.
Including the wall in Gaza."
I could ask you what you said but you didn't say anything but repeat what I said so what are you implying or implying that I implied.
This implication game is not that fun.
It would be a lot easier if you just talked freely.
I won't judge you. Say what you mean.
Don't be weasely about it.
Full 27.whatever billion for wall/barrier
Additional 5 billion to employee vets that are unemployed or struggling for more border patrol
Additional 5 billion for new tech to detect tunnels ect...
One time deal, citizenship to all illegals currently in country that are employed, pay taxes, and have a clean criminal record for more than 5 years. If illegals been here for less than one year, they get kicked the fuck out. Illegals that have been here between 1 to 5 years be placed on a probationary period until they have completed 5 years of consistent work, taxes, and crime free.
Make all drugs legal because the fucking government doesn't have the damn right to tell me or anyone else what drugs we can do and cripples cartels
After that, anyone who tries to cross border illegally gets sent back, if they try to cross again illegally, life in prison.
every word out of your mouth since you implied shit has been deflection
its like you lost your ability to speak straight
so answer the fucking statement you made and stop being so weaselly
would be really interesting to hear how you would expect anyone to interpret it for anything else than what it is
i think maybe you're confusing the ability to speak straight to your own words
Are u backwards?
I made a statement. Of that you are 100.
A statement does not beg an answer. It is stated.
You implied something. That begs an question. A question you refuse to state.
I asked you to make a statement about what you implied. You still have not said anything.
so you're just going to ignore that statement and accuse me of being weaselly when its actually you avoiding the content of your statement
not a lot of ways to interpret it so just call me a name instead
pretty sure if i was to call the Mexicans and central americans looking for a better life the bad guys you would see me as a racist
i would never do that because i know they are searching for a better life for their families same as i would in their position
the people surrounding Israel and desiring to wipe their kind off the face of the earth are the good guys in your statement
thats some serious head up your ass stuff there
I made a statement. If you have an issue with a statement I made then attack it if you wish.
You never attacked my statement but implied I was a racist Jew hater.
So I directly called your behavior weasely. Come to me straight ahead and we have no problems disagreeing.
But come at me sideways and there is no chance of anyone understanding each other.
You are projecting your interpretations onto me. You rather have your assumptions and projections than an understanding between us.
And you would be wrong about what you are pretty sure about concerning Mexicans/Central Americans and what I believe.
I don't think Trump is a racist for example. Do you? He wants to build a wall, aren't you for that wall to keep out all the murdering rapists terrorists criminals that Trump says are coming from Mexico and Central America?
I also never said anything about anyone being the good guys. I actually rarely ever and most likely never say that anyone is a good guy.
You implying and assuming unnecessarily when people are telling you to make statements and ask questions instead.
Your implications are proving to be wrong. Your assumptions as well.
Make statements, ask questions. That is how you come to an understanding with people. Unless you are dogmatic in which case you do not want to understand. You already 'know' you understand.
Now you kind of made a statement, finally.
I will ask you a question about your statement as that is how we share understanding.
My question is... Are these dogmas for you?
I don't think the people surrounding Israel all want to erase Jews from the planet.
Like if I believe that 1 person or 10 or 100 people in Palestine do not wish for the death of all Jews... is that heresy to you?
Do I need to believe like you do that every person around Israel desires to murder all Jews in the world for us to have common ground?
Do I have to believe that Jews are good guys and Arabs or Palestinians are bad guys or else we can't communicate?
What if I believe that the Israeli government are bad guys and that the Palestinian government are bad guys too?
Because that is what I believe.
All countries that let socialism creep in will eventually want walls to protect them from the lower classes.
you believe Jews are the bad guys
like i said no big deal since i've heard it all before
and you are distorting my analogy on Mexicans
of course i don't think Trump or anyone who wants the wall is racist unlike a lot my liberal friends
that was not my point at all
if i said that the dirty Mexicans were the bad guys and that was my thinking to the point i put it in words...that would be my point and also racist
you said the Jews are the bad guys implying they are wrong to defend themselves and its an old tried and true kinda hate
if you have another way thats supposed to sound lets hear it
seems like you've taken great exception to what appears a pretty black and white statement
Trump could write every illegal alien a check for a million dollars, make them citizens, and still be called a racist.
Congress won't do shit until their guy is in there.
This is all so simple.
Separate names with a comma.