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  1. rube

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    Nixon wasnt a crook.
    He was paranoid.
    And for good reason.
    Hillary is so crooked she should be in the dictionary under the definition of scoliosis.
    Donald is good friends with the clintons.
    Dont believe the hype.
    Trump isnt Hitler.
    Mexicans arent jews.
    For the most reasonable guy here i wouldnt expect you to be in the trump is hitler camp.
    Hitler was not a rich lecherous bufoon.
    Unless trump just pretends to be a philandering playboy like bruce wayne to hide the fact that at night he is the ubermensch.
     
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    Hitler was easier to spell but I didn't originate the name but cannot recall who said it. I just think his volatility is a danger to us all and whenever I see his face I just get this sick feeling and want to crawl through the TV screen and strangle him. He is the only "person" who does that to me. Maybe I could use an education on why the uproar about the e-mails themselves because I just don't get it. Do they contain some secret code, has a layout of the battle plans of our military or does it just have an email that says you have just won a Walmart gift card! I could see where there would be outrage among the Bernies supporters in the way they were discounted but he was able to get his desires in the DNC platform but it doesn't rise to me to the basic elements of a crime. Some people will bring up the foundation with regards to trying to influence Hillary but don't mega donors influence a very many politicians? Don't the lobbyist have many of those same politicians under their influence? We are in new territory these past 8 years with the 1st minority Pres. let alone black one and now a potential woman I just think people are using a different at times unattainable standard for those ground breakers.
     
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    Mishandling classified information is a crime. Anyone that is given access to classified information is given training regarding the proper handling of such, and the criminal penalties that apply for not handling it properly. Classified information is to be kept on specific systems and in specific locations. Anyone with access to this information knows this, and receives recurring training about it. She sent and received classified information on her personal e-mail server. This is a crime. Obviously this server was not secure, as it was hacked and the emails stolen.
     
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    Thank you Craig for the explanation without all the rhetoric. So the FBI didn't find anything and the committee of GOP investigators if you will cleared her but it's still a story? From my understanding there is still no confirmation that any of said e-mails were classified correct? This latest shit storm seems to me is much ado about nothing and Comey has been criticized for sending the letter but I don't think it was malicious on his part, he was covering his ass.

    Those hackers also breached the governments too, seems nothing is safe. Wonder why our computer guys can't stop those fuckers and why don't we hire the Russians lol.
     
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    My understanding (although I haven't seen them myself) is that there was classified information on the server. It was poorly marked (there's lots of rules about how classified document are to be marked), but it was marked, nonetheless. Clinton offered an explanation that she didn't understand the portion marking "(C) for confidential" meant it was classified. This explanation is impossible for me to accept. She should know this. Also confidential is the lowest level of classification. It is also my understanding that some of the emails had information relating to potential drone strike targets. If this is true, that information would be Top Secret and most likely compartmentalized beyond that. She should have known this too.

    What makes Comey's original decision scandalous is that the FBI knew all this and still didnt recommend charges (this is bizarre in and of itself, since normally the DOJ/Attorney General wouldakes that decision, not the FBI). A crime was clearly committed and they chose not to pursue charges. It reeks of special treatment: if you or I did this, we'd be in prison.
     
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    She us a crook doughty.
    She has a long history.
    And like the worst crooks she hides in sheeps clothes.
    Like hitler did.
    Trump doesnt hide the fact hes a wiley coyote.
    But a coyote will help you cross the border for money. You know this. He knows this. Everyone knows what he is. He is a smuggler.
    But a wolf is a cold blooded killer.
    Both are far from mans best friend.
    But you can count on the fact you cant count on a smuggler. Which makes the smuggler free to actually come through for you in some unexpexted and seemingly out of character way.
    Hillary is a she wolf.
    And we are about to become the twins remus and romulus suckled by Lupa and adopted by Faust.
     
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    i dislike and distrust hillary as much as anyone
    leaving soldiers in bengazi, lying to their families about it, and the aforementioned email debacle
    all sickening and detestable
    that said, the timing of this fbi probe is curious to put it mildly
    especially after nothing was allegedly found in the initial sweep
    what i wonder is who has the agency/comey so deep in their pockets that they could essentially order them to re-open a query at this late stage in the game
    trump? the mob? a foreign autocrat? or someone else?
    a lot of backroom dirty politicking going on
    i guess you have to ask who would stand the most to gain from this
    trump obviously, but who else would benefit the most if he were elected?
    i mean, other than us citizens :stirpot:
     
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    god bless julian assange
     
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    Our agencies are hamstrung by the obama doj and therefore are a step behind. So they dont know whats up until they are told by a whistleblower.
    And so when they learn that info they can investigate.
     
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    Hillary seems like such a bad person. But is Trump qualified to run our country?
     
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    Classified information *was* found. That makes the decision not to prosecute even more inexplicable.
     
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    classic
    waiting to see what excuses they have for waiting until now
    guess the bribery amount wasn't enough
     
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    my guess is that wiki is about to expose the FBI and comey if he doesn't drop this bomb
     
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    i didn't think of that
    that could very well be the case
    gotta love assange
     
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    liberals control hollywood, the media and the educational system
    the three major mouthpieces of our society
    it is beyond shameful that this clinton family has been allowed to go unchecked all these years
    i'm sure like sociopaths they truly believe they have done nothing wrong and why not?
    for a lockstep dogma to deny its happening just wreaks of intellectual dishonesty
    they are the worst kind of grifters imaginable in the highest office
    its offensive when i hear people say lets get past this email thing
    i hope they are all damned to hell for what they've done
     
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    EDIT: :whistle:
     
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    Nobody is.
    At least nobody that would want the job.
     
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    Hacked email suggests Donna Brazile leaked question to Hillary Clinton campaign ahead of CNN primary debate
    by Oliver Darcy | Business Insider — 4 hours ago

    Donna Brazile, the interim chair of the Democratic National Committee, appeared to tip off Hillary Clinton's campaign about a question in advance of a CNN Democratic primary debate in March, hacked emails published by WikiLeaks on Monday suggested.

    "One of the questions directed to HRC tomorrow is from a woman with a rash," Brazile emailed John Podesta, Clinton's campaign chairman, and Jennifer Palmieri, Clinton's communications director.

    Brazile added: "Her family has lead poison and she will ask what, if anything, will Hillary do as president to help the ppl of Flint."

    That exact question was not asked the next night at the debate in Flint, Michigan. But Mikki Wade, a public-housing program manager who subsequently said in an interview that her son had developed a rash from the contaminated water, asked Clinton about the situation with the water in Flint.

    "If elected president, what course will you take to regain my trust in government?" Wade asked.

    In October, another WikiLeaks email suggested that Brazile leaked a question to Clinton in advance of a CNN town-hall event in Ohio.

    Brazile denied doing so, but an email later showed she had access to the exact wording of a question from TV One moderator Roland Martin. CNN suggested Brazile had perhaps obtained the question from Martin.

    "I'll send a few more," Brazile said in an email at the time. "Though some questions Roland submitted."

    At the time of the debate and town hall, Brazile was a CNN contributor and vice chair of the Democratic National Committee.

    CNN spokeswoman Lauren Pratapas said in a statement provided to Business Insider that the network "never gave Brazile access to any questions, prep material, attendee list, background information, or meetings in advance of a town hall or debate."

    "We are completely uncomfortable with what we have learned about her interactions with the Clinton campaign while she was a CNN contributor," Pratapas said, adding that the network had severed ties with her on October 14.

    A CNN employee told Business Insider that it was possible Brazile obtained the question directly from the individual at a community service event held the day before the debate. The CNN employee said he saw Brazile strike up a conversation with a Flint resident who showed her a rash and said she wanted to ask Clinton about the issue facing Flint.

    A representative for the DNC did not respond to a request for comment.

    Brazile later replaced Debbie Wasserman Schultz as chair of the DNC on an interim basis following revelations from WikiLeaks over the summer that the Democratic Party apparatus thought about ways to tip the scales against Clinton's biggest primary challenger, Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont.
     
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    CNN cuts ties with Donna Brazile after hacked emails show she gave Clinton campaign debate questions
    by Dylan Stableford | Yahoo — 53 minutes ago

    CNN has quietly cut ties with Donna Brazile, the acting Democratic National Committee chair and a longtime contributor on the cable news network, after hacked emails published by WikiLeaks revealed that she had provided questions to the Hillary Clinton campaign in advance of a town hall and debate hosted by CNN during the Democratic primary.

    The emails showed that Brazile — whose role as a CNN contributor was suspended in July after she took over for departing DNC chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz — shared with the Clinton campaign a question that would be posed to Clinton before the CNN Democratic Debate in Flint, Mich., in March, and another before a CNN town hall in Columbus, Ohio, a week later.

    The network vehemently denied giving Brazile access to debate questions in advance.

    “CNN never gave Brazile access to any questions, prep material, attendee list, background information or meetings in advance of a town hall or debate,” the spokeswoman, Lauren Pratapas, said in a statement. “We are completely uncomfortable with what we have learned about her interactions with the Clinton campaign while she was a CNN contributor.”

    Brazile has appeared as a guest on Yahoo News’ live coverage of campaign events, including the recent presidential debates, but was not paid for any of those appearances.

    Brazile did not respond to a request for comment.

    Donna Brazile ✔ @donnabrazile
    Thank you @CNN. Honored to be a Democratic Strategist and commentator
    on the network. Godspeed to all my former colleagues.
    8:56 AM - 31 Oct 2016

    On Twitter, she referred media to her previous statement about the emails exposed by WikiLeaks. (“This is exactly what the Russians intended to do. And they’re doing it,” Brazile said on Oct. 11.) She also thanked CNN and wished her former colleagues well.

    All of the major cable news networks feature paid political operatives on air. But CNN has been harshly criticized for employing Corey Lewandowski, Donald Trump’s former campaign manager, while he was still being paid $20,000 per month by the Republican nominee.

    Before leaving the Trump campaign in June, Lewandowski signed a nondisclosure agreement that would presumably prevent him from speaking candidly about the candidate. According to Politico, that agreement caused Lewandowski to lose a $1.2 million offer from HarperCollins to write a book about his experience managing the brash real estate mogul.

    In August, CNN chief Jeff Zucker defended the hiring of Lewandowski.

    “The reason we hired Corey is that now that we are in the general election, I think it’s really important to have voices on CNN who are supportive of the Republican nominee,” Zucker told Variety. “It’s hard to find a lot of those. Our competitors tried to hire him too.”

    “I actually think he’s done a really nice job,” Zucker added. “He’s come under a much greater spotlight because of who he is and the relationship he’s had with the media. As a result, people are going to be more critical.”

    Brazile has seen the effects of being under a greater spotlight firsthand.

    On Sunday, she warned those sending her hateful messages online, and expressed universal campaign fatigue.

     

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