DODGERS The MATTINGLY Thread

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  1. 4everblue

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    some REALLY interesting points on a dodgers.com article...

     
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    hey wait a fucken minute that post was full of content other than what you quoted. in fact i didn't even see the KK part.
    not my first choice tbh and i would have loved to hear his comments on dbb this year.
    i have this bad feeling that its going to be dusty though.
     
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    I had a complete mental lapse and didn't realize Manny Acta isn't managing elsewhere, he would be my preference should Mattingly leave.
     
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    Acta could be a good Hillman replacement...

    What about Willie Randolph to replace Hillman??

    How about Bill Russell for bench coach???
     
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    Manny Acta is only 44? Holy balls.
     
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    I want a new age manager.
    One who wont ever fucking bunt
    One who will use the best reliever in high leverage situations and not the 9th
    One who will bat his best hitter 2nd and his second best hitter 4th
    etc

    Tbh just gimme the manager that can get us a world series. Idc how he does it
     
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    Maddon already has a job... amazing how Dave Martinez doesnt get more manager exposure...
     
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    I do too. And life will suck.
     
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    What kind of man is named Twitter?
     
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    :laff:
     
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    Hersheiser would be interesting, but has no previous head managerial experience. I think the Dodgers will go for someone who was a head coach before. I actually like Scioscia but I think he's under contract. Girardi is under contract. Gibson is under contract....I have really no idea who's available.

    Who's Charlie Manure? Did you mean Charlie Manuel?
     
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    what you did there
    me no like :angry:
     
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    Yes, Scioscia has 5 more years on his deal ($27M!), and yes, he means Charlie Manuel.
     
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    not a plashke fan
    but a pretty interesting perspective whether you agree or not...

    Dodgers, Don Mattingly need to find middle ground
    If Mattingly's not the perfect manager, he's certainly a good one for this veteran team. But he needs to watch what he says, or he's gone, quicker than you can say Trey Hillman
    By Bill Plaschke, Los Angeles Times | October 22, 2013, 3:11 pm​

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    Mattingly acting like a petulant cunt at a news conference with GM Ned Colletti on Monday (LA Times)
    Don Mattingly has taken his shots, the Dodgers have fired back, the steam that had been building under their disillusioning October failure has been angrily blown off and will soon drift away into the quiet of winter.

    Does everybody feel better? Good. Now, for the sake of this current roster's rapidly closing window on a championship, it's time for a compromise.

    The Dodgers need to realize the importance of Mattingly's strengths and give him some security beyond his current one-year contract.

    Mattingly needs to realize the importance of his weaknesses and embrace a new bench coach to help him with late-game decisions, even though this coach will replace fired friend Trey Hillman.

    Both of these things should happen during the calm of baseball's World Series-mandated news embargo, after which the Dodgers should hold a news conference announcing Mattingly's new deal and introducing the new coach.

    This is not only the most obvious solution, it's the only solution. Anything else, and Mattingly is gone. Anything else, and it becomes clear the Dodgers wanted him gone all along, and that would be a mistake.

    No, the Dodgers don't need Mattingly walking Reed Johnson or pinch-running for Adrian Gonzalez. But, yes, for a variety of other reasons, the Dodgers still need Mattingly.

    Armed with someone to guide his strategy as Don Zimmer or Larry Bowa helped Joe Torre, Mattingly has the potential to become another Torre. He is a great clubhouse presence who led the Dodgers to the postseason by deftly defusing explosives in every corner. He is the first manager to influence Hanley Ramirez to play hard and play hurt. He is the first manager to turn Andre Ethier into a team player. He kept wild child Yasiel Puig from turning the place into a circus. He helped turn former clubhouse lawyer Adrian Gonzalez into a quiet leader while navigating the changing role of injured but still influential Matt Kemp.

    The Dodgers need him, and Mattingly needs the Dodgers. He thinks he can walk away from here and into a better spot? Really? Where? With the high payroll, huge fan base and Hollywood exposure, the Guggenheim-led Dodgers have become one of the best managerial destinations in baseball

    All of which makes it surprising that Mattingly would chose to blindside ownership Monday with thinly veiled public threats to leave. Mattingly stunned the organization by using a routine end-of-the-year news conference to express his distress over the one-year renewal of his contract. After working as a lame duck all season, Mattingly intimated he could not work another year under the same conditions.

    "When you're put in this situation, the organization basically says, 'We don't know if you can manage or not,'" Mattingly complained.

    It was so unlike the calm and considered Mattingly to pull such a power play that one wonders if he was receiving some advice from elsewhere. If so, it was bad advice, because it made the Dodgers suddenly wonder about his loyalty. Why would they give a multiple-year contract to a guy who they now believe is capable of publicly ripping them when times are tough? If Mattingly is suddenly fired, this outburst will be the breaking point.

    On Tuesday, the Dodgers showed exactly what they think of his managing by firing his close friend Hillman. This was not a surprise, and not because Hillman was a bad bench coach, but because Hillman was just the wrong bench coach for Mattingly, who needs a more veteran presence unafraid to challenge him.

    So what happens now? The immediate future of the Dodgers as a contender hangs in the balance.

    Here's hoping the Dodgers realize Mattingly was just speaking out of frustration, and that he's worth another year on his contract.

    Here's hoping Mattingly realizes that he indeed needs a new bench coach, and embraces change while acknowledging to the Dodgers that this entire issue could have been handled internally.

    Although the final game was only days ago, it seems some folks have already forgotten that these Dodgers finished just two games — or one Hanley Ramirez broken rib — short of advancing to the World Series for the first time in 25 years. This is not the time to change managers.

    If Don Mattingly and the Dodgers won't agree on anything else, can't they agree on that?

    bill.plaschke@latimes.com

    Twitter @billplaschke​

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    I really hope it's not Dusty if Mattingly is fired. Dusty get's fired from every job because he can't manage in the playoff either. He makes the same boneheaded mistakes again and again and again.
     
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    Scioscia would be a natural choice, but WTF 5 years for 27M!!!

    I would have thought that he was going to get axed by the LA Angels after the turd he laid this season... Now I know why Arte didn't fire him...
     
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    ^They got hot at the end of the year so the Anals are under the illusion that their problems are solved, morons.
     
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