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If the Dodgers could acquire one player at the deadline, who would you prefer?

  1. Machado

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  2. Front line starter (degrom, thor, et al)

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  1. irish

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    in an related story...
    huh? and his date took a drive and experienced zero, uh, accidents...
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    So Rhys Hoskins is moving to LF to accommodate Santana in Philly
     
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    Wow, that is a 16.6AAV for another 5 years on a 32 year old player coming off a league average offensive season. This is going to be very interesting to watch unfold. He absolutely lengthens that lineup, but if his numbers continue trending the way they are, he is going to add to the glut of past their prime players locked in to long term contracts in that org. Add Jay Bruce to the fold and they better PRAY that things work out or they are setting themselves up for a long stretch of mediocrity. I think with what they have planned, they are not a championship caliber team, but if they are healthy, they will make the division just that much tougher. The NL is about to be a major pain in the ass with the Braves, Phillies, Padres, Reds and Rockies having stacked farm systems and many of the already good teams are loaded with young talent and superstars like the Dodgers, Cubs, Nats, Rockies(again), Brewers and Cardinals. If this falls apart, the Giants and Marlins are going to be the series that everyone circles on the schedule.
     
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    was never a fan of mehcarthy
    but this is pretty classy
    good luck bmac!

    Brandon McCarthy ✔@BMcCarthy32
    The Dodgers were a truly wonderful organization from top to bottom and it
    will forever be one of the great honors of my life to have worn that jersey.

    5:43 PM - Dec 19, 2017
     
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    Fuck him
     
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    nosler's argument/pitch for mccutchen...

    Andrew McCutchen makes an incredible amount of sense for the Dodgers
    by Dustin Nosler | Dodger Digest — 55 minutes ago

    Yesterday, I wrote about an unlikely Yasmani Grandal–A.J. Pollock swap. As much sense as it makes on paper, the whole “Diamondbacks are good” thing continues to be the issue with that trade. One trade idea that isn’t nearly as unrealistic involves the Pirates and a particular outfielder.

    It seems Andrew McCutchen has been on the trading block for more than a year now. The Dodgers have been loosely connected to him in the past, and — citing the same article from Ken Gurnick in yesterday’s post — McCutchen is, again, loosely connect to the Dodgers. And after clearing up some money for the rest of the offseason, I’m not sure there are many better ways to spend some of that newfound money than on one of the best players of the last almost a decade in McCutchen.

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    McCutchen, 31, had a down 2016 season that saw him post a .256/.336/.430 slash line with a 105 wRC+ and a 0.6 WAR. A lot of that low WAR total could be attributed to defense, as he was still playing center field where he had an eye-popping -28 defensive runs saved. He rebounded in 2017 — still playing primarily center field because of Starling Marte‘s performance-enhancing drug suspension — to hit .279/.363/.486 with a 122 wRC+ and a 3.7 WAR (even with -16 DRS!). A lot of folks wanted to give up on him after his ’16 season, but it turns out it’s usually a good thing to bet on elite or near-elite players. Now, he might not be the guy he was from 2012-15 (157 wRC+) when he took home the 2013 NL MVP, but he’s still capable of being a difference-maker. And in the Dodgers’ lineup, he’d just make them that much more dangerous.

    Cutch mashed against lefties last season to the tune of a 189 wRC+. If you want a negative, he had just a 103 wRC+ against righties, but with Joc Pederson, Andrew Toles and Alex Verdugo still around, getting Cutch a day off against righties every once in awhile wouldn’t be the worst thing.

    His addition would be strictly on a 1-year basis, and he’s owed $14.5 million in the final year of his deal. With the Dodgers having roughly $20-21 million to spend under the $197 million luxury tax, McCutchen would take up a large portion of that. But if the Dodgers did acquire him, they could afford to trade Grandal (projected $7.7 million), Logan Forsythe ($8.5 million), Hyun-Jin Ryu ($7.63 million) or Pederson ($2 million) to give them cushion under the luxury tax as Cutch would provide that impact upgrade over any of them. McCutchen also likely wouldn’t factor into the Dodgers’ future plans, and thus wouldn’t have any negative impact on their ability to spend in free agency next winter.

    Defensively, as I laid out above, he isn’t a center fielder anymore. The only other position he has played is right field, and that was for 115 1/3 innings at the beginning of last season (2 DRS, 1.4 UZR/150). If you’ve forgotten, Yasiel Puig mans right field for these Dodgers and isn’t moving. That leaves left field, where McCutchen — in theory — should be at least average out there. An outfield of McCutchen-Taylor-Puig would be, in a word, incredible. I don’t see this being much of a speed bump.

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    So, what’s McCutchen’s trade value? Despite coming off a poor 2016, it might have actually been higher since he had an extra year of control. Now, he could be had for a reasonable package of prospects.

    The Pirates still have Marte, Gregory Polanco and prospect Austin Meadows, so I’m not sure how interested they would be in the likes of Pederson, Toles or Verdugo. If the deal is expanded to include another team (and that wouldn’t be surprising), then maybe one of those guys is on the table, but my guess is they’d want young pitching. So, let’s see who fits that criterion.

    • Imani Abdullah
    • Yadier Alvarez
    • Walker Buehler
    • Caleb Ferguson
    • Dustin May
    • Trevor Oaks
    • Dennis Santana
    • Jordan Sheffield
    • Brock Stewart
    • Mitchell White

    OK, we can immediately cross off Buehler. I’d almost like to exclude White from any proposal as well. And I’m not sure how eager the Dodgers are to trade Stewart, but it’s a possibility. Alvarez could headline a deal and reduce the overall prospect cost, but giving up on his arm for one year of McCutchen might not make the most sense. Everybody else would have to be on the table. Position players like Gavin Lux, DJ Peters or Will Smith could also be of interest to the Pirates. Overall, it might only take a couple guys to land McCutchen.

    The Dodgers and Pirates hooked up on a deal for Tony Watson in July. It cost them infielder (future outfielder) Oneil Cruz and right-handed flamethrower Angel German. Neither of them are the caliber of prospect able to get McCutchen, but a deal involving one pitcher and one position player could make sense.

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    The Pirates are in a precarious position. They’ve had a few good years, but it’s probably time for them to rebuild as their former cheap, productive players aren’t so cheap anymore. McCutchen is about the perfect player the Dodgers could acquire for a short-term commitment. I’m not sure it’ll happen, but if the Dodgers want to make a big splash this offseason, fewer players make more sense than McCutchen.
     
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    Mid season for Cutch maybe because he is a 2nd half player but not before.
     
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    Even Longoria last year hit .217 vs lefties.
     
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    It has been 3 years since he did well against them. Now he is going to a division with most of the best LH starters in the game. Should be fun to see how that works out.
     
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    - Chris Camillo is saying that his sources have told him that the Dodgers main focus right now is moving Matt Kemp and his contract which is currently bringing up no takers. My guess is that as soon as they get an iota of interest, they will move quickly to close a deal. With the snails pace this is going, it looks like Darvish will be not be coming back as he looks to be coming closer to a decision.
     
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    Is it just me? I think the Gnats are making a horrible decision and doing the opposite of what they should be trying to do.

    They have an aging team, some of whom are making a lot of money. There is little in the farm system, and even less now. The younger players that are starting can’t seem to stay healthy. And they’ve already won 3 chips with their core.

    Wouldn’t I be in straight tear down mode, get farm talent, and reduce payroll even further?

    They seem to be getting older and older. I know they are saving money with this move but they were god awful for a season and a half....the writing is on the wall.
     
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    You're not the only one.

    They've been about the worst team in the game for a year a half.
     
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    Not just you. They are banking on a shit ton of comeback seasons from their regs and MadBum/Cueto. Pretty much counting on a lot of buts which is appropriate for the city.
     
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    I remember after the pool rush in AZ when everyone and their senator was crying foul, BMac was the one DBack to say “no hard feelings, we should’ve won the game so they couldn’t celebrate”

    It sucks that his time in LA didn’t work out. I know I wanted to sign him. A bad contract and bad player (for us), but a good dude.
     
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    Maybe I'm crazy then, but isn't every team that plays baseball relying on the same exact thing? Aren't we hoping that all are mainstays come back and catapult us to at least another elite NLW championship?
    Like what if the increasingly disliked, without-fail-choker Kershaw doesn't win his usual 18 games? Or Cody has a big sophomore slump? Or Hill's age says "hello"? Or whoever takes over the setup role to get to Choke Jansen isn't a Morrow? Seems to me we are putting a huge chunk of hope on untried MiL pitchers on their way...and one with big time surgery...what if ?
    I can't predict definite results like everyone else unerringly can do, but doesn't this make the scumbag Giants a better team? Didn't we lust after Longoria only very recently?
    Weren't there plenty of giddy lineups written here with his name on it, like Giancarlo's and Ohtani's...and now the new one, Harper's ??
    Then if SF should nauseatingly win once again, or twice, or uh...thrice ( as they have already), then they were the " luckiest" team ever...
    I think overconfidence and insolence has been one of the major factors producing the relentless annual results for the Dodgers...
    Always pops up and bites us in the ass by the end of the season. Big time.
    As constant as Polaris.
     
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    Heyman just said that the Rockies are looking to add TWO of Addison Reed, Wade Davis and Greg Holland(they’ve also been one of the teams kicking around on Colome). Wow, that’d be kind of a scary pitching staff, though I think they have some issues in the lineup as there isn’t anyone that really strikes fear outside of Arenado(sorry Blackmon, do something away from Coors).
     
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    Also, for those that wonder why he always hates on the Dodgers and loves the Giants... Harold Reynolds said that the Giants are and have been his favorite team since he was a kid. There you go.
     
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    And Mad dog Chris Russo's favorite team too...must be a pre requisite to working on MLBTV...
     
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