right now its sad to say we have 6 pitchers signed for next year, as you can only say that 1 of them is a reliable option CK = Ace. Period. Nothing else to say Bills = currently injured, could required TJ. Still, at times he looks dominant, at times sucks more dick than IBB in a Giants game Beckett = jury still out on him. Could turn into a solid #2, but I dont expect him to be more than an average #3 and now it turns ugly: Herman Monster (aka Harang): the guy cant pitch past the 6th inning... for some reason he always allows just enough runs to get the team screwed. You cant say that he's ever hit that hard, but he's always hittable Capuano = great first half, mediocre second half Lilly = YES, still one more year to go and we dont even know if he comes back. He's the wild card of the group as he can be a solid #3, but right now, we dont even have an average #2 so lets take a look at the FA market. Some players that are not going to be available because of team options that will be picked (James Shields, Dickey) and the ones that are absolute crap and not an option (Moyer) Scott Baker (31) - $9.25MM club option Erik Bedard (34) Joe Blanton (32) Bartolo Colon (40) Aaron Cook (34) Kevin Correia (32) Jorge De La Rosa (32) - $11MM player option with a $1MM buyout Ryan Dempster (36) R.A. Dickey (38) - $5MM club option with a $300K buyout Scott Feldman (29) - $9.25MM club option with a $600K buyout Jeff Francis (32) Gavin Floyd (30) - $9.5MM club option Freddy Garcia (37) Zack Greinke (28) Jeremy Guthrie (34) Rich Harden (31) Dan Haren (32) - $15.5MM club option with a $3.5MM buyout Roberto Hernandez (32) - $9MM club option Tim Hudson (37) - $9MM club option with a $1MM buyout Edwin Jackson (29) Hiroki Kuroda (38) Colby Lewis (33) Francisco Liriano (29) Kyle Lohse (34) Derek Lowe (40) Paul Maholm (31) - $6.5MM club option with a $500K buyout Shaun Marcum (31) Jason Marquis (34) Daisuke Matsuzaka (32) Brandon McCarthy (29) Kevin Millwood (38) Jamie Moyer (50) Roy Oswalt (35) Carl Pavano (37) Jake Peavy (31) - $22MM club option with a $4MM buyout Anibal Sanchez (29) Jonathan Sanchez (30) Ervin Santana (30) - $13MM club option with a $1MM buyout Joe Saunders (32) James Shields (31) - $9MM club option with a $1.5MM buyout Carlos Villanueva (29) Chien-Ming Wang (33) Kip Wells (36) Randy Wolf (36) Chris Young (34) Carlos Zambrano (32) From that group (of the ones that will be available) only a few names are worth considering: Haren (not sure if his option will be picked), Jackson, Kuroda, Peavy and Anibal Sanchez. Only Peavy and Haren can be a #2 pitcher, Kuroda a good #3 and the others nothing more than a #4. From that group, who would you like to see pitching for us next year?
Really worth getting worked up about this early when so many things are up in the air, and this season isn't even over?
1) A lot depends on the health of Bills/Lilly, so too hard to even tell what it'll be 2) it's not gonna be a disaster. The pitching is probably going to be similar to this and last years which was one of the best pitching staffs of the game.
depends who's available... haren, shields, et al otherwise greinke and someone like kuroda if bills is healthy, this looks pretty solid... kershaw greinke bills beckett kuroda if not, this isn't all that bad either... kershaw greinke beckett kuroda whoever harang, capuano and lilly are servicable at #5 or long relief just my
1) We don't know Billingsley's status 2) We don't know Lilly's status 3) We don't know how much money the ownership wants to spend. They could be maxed out, or they could sign Greinke and Haren. Seems way too premature to call anything a "possible disaster"
My choices would be: Edwin Jackson HiKu Joe Saunders Anibal Sanchez And I do not in anyway think that our rotation is fucked for next year. We have 5 proven guys with CK, Harang, Beckett, Cap and Bills already there. There are probably 10-15 teams who'd kill for that. Not to mention that we can make trades or sign any of the above. Definitely NOT a concern for me.
Edwin Jackson is so inconsistent. If ownership is still in wow mode, get Grienke and Kuroda. If they're not, get Kuroda and pray that Bills is healthy for next year.
Na, Walter wipes his ass with gold leaf, then wipes the gold leaf off with $100 bills. We got money like the sports world has never seen before.
Another idiotic thread. Like VRP said, why worry about 2013 now? I don't think most of you realize how pathetic and obtuse you really are. Love, Ned
Oh great, here comes the mod police. Whatever dude, I'm just saying what I believe. If you can't handle it go ahead and censor me whitey.