Breaking Bad Thread

Discussion in 'Los Angeles DODGERS' started by N.Z, Sep 14, 2013.

  1. chris

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    And Walt is COMPLETELY SELF CENTERED. he said it himself, he's in the empire business. He doesn't care who falls in his wake. He says he was doing this for his family but he could have backed out so many times. But his ego didn't let him. I want him to die in the worst way possible.
     
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    Flynn told the cops that his dad pulled out the knife on his mom (not true). I hope he dies now. I hope everyone besides Walt dies. Fucking ingrates...

    #TeamWalt :D
     
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    If I was Flynn and my dad got me a car, I wouldn't give a fuck. What, 17-year-old is going to complain about a fucking sweet ass car? And also, yeah, Skylar pulled a knife on Walt, but how many of us wouldn't defend our mothers? Aren't we more inclined to be protective of them? He just learned everything about Walt, so of course he'll defend his mom and call the cops.

    On the topic of the family, yeah, they're all fucked up somehow outside of Walt Jr. and the baby. Walt Jr. is just a regular kid who has no clue what's going on. Skylar did fuck Ted, but her husband was hiding some shit from her, and she found out he's a god damn drug lord. Not defending her, but I think people get defensive of Walt because he's the main focal point of the show. We see his reactions and his actions and, good or bad, we still kinda root for him. Hell, I have up and down feelings on the guy. The writers are amazing in that aspect, creating a terrible human being and then still kinda liking him, giving him some (very few) redeeming qualities.

    Hank, I think people bag on too much because of his personality. We've seen him, though. He's one of the few good guys in all of this. And before you say, "But he beat up Jesse!" Yeah, he did, but Jesse's a fuck up junkie who he thought knew about him and his family when Saul and his people called him to say Marie was in the hospital. He's one of the smarter people in the show. And again, before you say, "But he didn't even know Walt was Heisenberg!", let's not act as if no one has ever found something dirty about the people they love, years after knowing them. He's a great detective. Although he was looking for Walt, he found Tuco by doing some good detective work. He found out Jesse was using an RV, and actually found the RV. He even figured out Gus was the king pin of it all. He's a damn good detective. Brash and arrogant, yeah, but a damn good detective.

    And finally, Walt. To say he's not self centered is false. I mean, the whole issue with Gus went down because he had to go out and try to kill him. I honestly feel Gus wouldn't have killed them after the three months. But Walt kept pushing and pushing, leading to a war with him and Gus where he had to poison a child, and put a fucking bomb in a nursing home. I will agree, that there are moments where we see Walt and not Heisenberg, particularly when it comes to his family, but Walt has done stuff much worse than fucking a boss or having a brash personality like Hank. Walt has done terrible things in order to protect the empire, and now has to pay for those actions.

    And one more thing, Skylar did those things (not the fucking the boss part) to try and protect her family. If anything, she didn't want to be brought into it, but to try and help her children, she had to get launder the money.

    Walt can be selfish. Skylar can be selfish. Really, the only one who isn't selfish is Holly and she's a god damn baby. To say you hate Skylar for fucking Ted while Walt has done way more fucked up shit is a bit odd to me.

    But I still feel Walt can redeem himself, or try to, by coming back and taking down the Nazis before the cancer finally gets him.
     
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    You think Flynn should die over a small lie where he takes the side against all the horrible shit he just found out about Walt, but don't think Walt should die even with the insane amounts of lies he's said that have been done in order for murder and pain to innocent ppl to occur?
     
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    But what did he find out really? They think they know but they don't.

    Walt is self centered but I feel his actions and ego are the only one that's realistic. He's rational and understands what he's doing and does what he has to do. So in that regard I think he's real. The rest are fake ass bitches who act so appalled. It's nonsense. Also Walt Jr had a sudden turnaround and suddenly hates his dad where he's willing to rat him out to the cops?

    What son would really do that to your dad. You hear about something an hour before, don't believe it, your mom pulls a knife on your dad he tries to take it from her she stabs him and oh wow I just realized in 30 seconds he's a monster and I'm gonna turn on him...yeah right.

    I like Walt and I hated the episode 2 episodes ago where Jesse and Hank were relishing catching Walt.

    But I'm also the guy who always hoped Luke Skywalker would join his dad on the dark side of the force.
     
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    Walt pulled off a fucking miracle any way you look at it.
    his family is ungrateful bitches w no clue of what it takes to survive.
    and that includes that whiny baby.
     
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    Yes.
     
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    This exactly. When they are faced with the reality Walt has been living they turn on him in an instant. Fucking ingrates.
     
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    How cute
     
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    Everything has crashed around him. It's over for him now. He doesn't want them in danger, and it took Holly saying mama to make him realize he has to leave and make the cops believe it was all him so they could be safe. I don't think their ingrates. They aren't hardened criminals. Not everyone is. During that time, they thought Hank had caught him and had no idea what to think, and then Walt highjacks a baby. I think it'd be difficult to be faced with the reality that your dad is a drug lord and your husband is now forcing you to leave after thinking he has been caught.
     
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    I think you have something here but at the same point they could've been out of it all if they left with Walt and his money.
     
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    I just think we're looking at this without thinking how the situation is going down in everyone's head (as if this were real). This is all happening very fast, and as far as Skylar knows, Walt has killed Hank, because that's what he does. He kills motherfuckers. She thought he was finally out of the life and they lived easy for a while. The final scene of season 5A happens a few months after Walt is done. He's been out of the life for a while now, and now all this shit is happening. Skylar made it clear that she didn't want the family in danger. And she HAS to know Hank is dead, or Walt wouldn't be there. He's put all their lives in danger with the police going after Walt since they could easily trace his last call to Marie and she'll tell them what happened.
     
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    maybe its just me but i'd stick w my family until the end.
    and it was HIS baby too.
    i think maybe what makes it so real for most of us is that we've seen the shit hit the fan at one time or another.
    divorce, death, anger, rage whatever with everything seemingly on the line.
    thats what made the last episode so intense.
    also there is no more lonely place than being the man in a family. just the way it is.
     
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    Walt didn't kill Hank.
     
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    But she thinks he did. No one knows what happened, but Skylar doesn't even know about the nazis. And since Marie told Skylar that Hank had him, and Walt returning home dirty and not in custody, she most likely thinks Walt killed him.

    And I think I figured out how it all goes down. The nazis know Jesse had a confession tape, which means they're going to try and get their hands on it, meaning they'll take a trip to Marie's house, and there will be a blood bath with all the loose ends there. And that's Walt's motivation to come back with the M60. It could also be to save Jesse if he finds the blue meth is back, but he hates Jesse, and will come back to avenge his family.

    Although I think only Holly will survive, and Jesse will too.
     
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    I also think some of us just root for the anti hero.

    For everyone waiting and hoping for Walt to get killed or die or get his cummupance isn't that just the boring predictable end?

    I think what made this show great, besides the outstanding acting performances of Paul, Cranston and Norris, was you didn't know what was going to happen next and last episode was seriously brilliant.

    That's why we watch that show for the WTF moment, not Walt getting arrested and being tried and yawn wake me when it's over.
     
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    Don't forget about Saul.
     
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    Saul, Kuby and Huell become Holly's legal guardians.
     
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    Here is my end of series prediction.

    Walt goes to New Hampshire, he's there a few months, finds out his family (which has always been his driving force) is in jeopardy by Lydia. Skylar's car wash gets bombed with her in it killing her. Marie is also murdered.

    I think we find out Lydia is the one calling the shots for the Neo nazis (predictable I know). So he comes back gets the ricin which is for Lydia. He poisons her somehow. Todd is gonna turn on his uncle and team up with Walt.

    Lydia's death leaves a void, head nazi guy blames walt and they all die. Walt and Todd and Jesse live on. Walt's cancer catches up to him and he entrusts Jesse to raise Holly.

    Although I hope I'm wrong but that's an educated guess.
     
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    I can't see Todd teaming up with Walt. I remember hearing this a while ago: Todd is a psychopath, and the complete opposite of Jesse. Jesse is a rude guy, but has emotion. He gives a fuck about things. Todd is nice, but without emotion, like how he could just kill a kid without hesitation. No way Todd gets a happy ending. Shit, Jesse would kill him on principal.

    I could see, if everyone else is dead in the end, Jesse taking Holly and raising her, as I see him being the only person who will have a happy ending.
     

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