WTF? Talk about being a traitor on the highest level? This takes it!!! http://tracking.si.com/2012/07/07/peter-omalley-wins-bidding-for-padres/?sct=hp_t2_a16&eref=sihp
The guy wants to own a BB team. He tried for the Dodgers, but was told to take a walk, wasn't he? Frank wanted to own the Red Sox; maybe that's why he eventually didn't give a shit and did what he did like a greedy scumbag. From what I've just read about this guy Kasten and his feelings on "the indefinite GM" Colletti, maybe the wrong group got the Dodgers. O'Malley, with his BB pedigree, could prove a problem sooner or later for us. It won't happen immediately, but watch and see what he does with a GM as time goes by.
this is actually perfect omalley was running the dodgers like the padres for most of his tenure anyway
I need a don't like button for posts like these! :angry: No one can be worse than Moores has been the last few years.
I guess the assemblage of O'Malley haters after the Rube post had a little slip of memory and just forgot about the 2 World Series (count 'em, TWO) Championships we happened to win during his "tenure". And a few trips we didn't win, but got there. I guess those don't count. Sure there were years we sucked...but, were we ever better under anyone else? I wait with baited breath for this reply. When's the last time we were in the WS again? I forgot... Oh , and some of the best Dodger players of all time...you guys remember Fernando and Orel and...oh...never mind.
Truth be told BZ but, if you also recall, O'Malley cited the "Money first mentality of NINETIES players" as the reason he wanted out, after the Piazza vs Butler thing unfolded in the media. You think 2010's players have softened their money demands? They won't be (And we wouldn't have been) in big F/A discussions.
I'm certainly not an O'Malley hater, but it did seem he couldn't keep up with the changing times...like many teams. The Pirates always come to mind. Money became too important to compete. I attribute those past great things to a different time in MLB. FA was nothing like it is now. I have tried to imagine what a team that had Lopes, Garvey, Cey, Smith, Baker, Fernando, Sutton, Howe, etc. would cost nowadays. I mean those teams in the late 70's early 80's were stacked with studly talent. Then there was the wonderful years of Piazza, Karros, Mondesi, Matinez, Nomo, etc.. I then wonder how we didn't win more WS with either of those eras. O'Malley was also bit by some strange things in trade and free agency. Strawberry, Davis, Deshields for example were all great ballplayers until they came to L.A. Not his fault, but it didn't turn out well. Funny, remember Strawberry's contract was like 5 years /$25M? Shit guys of his caliber almost make that in a single year now! Obviuosly inflation is what it is, but I think the ratio has favored the player far more than it used too.
as a dodgers fan i have never had a problem knowing that the 88 team was a team of destiny type situation does not hurt how i feel about the team one bit to know that the 88 team won in spite years of being a mid level team playing in a large market other shortcuts with the farm system made things worse lots of players on that team that were james loney/juan uribe types in fact it adds another reason as to why the 88 team is so special
All interesting facts and takes of what happened during the extensive O'Malley tenure. But in the history of the Dodgers, our tradition and greatness is almost solely based on what happened during the time the O'Malley family owned the team...and that's never going to change, no matter how many bad trades and Pedro for Delinos there were. It doesn't alter or lessen our only World Championships came with them, and anything after (I don't count before, we were pretty much a joke or a failure most of the time), was nothing but , at best, a bridesmaids status. Some fans think winning the WS is the ultimate in BB...I'm one of them. Whether the 88 team was a team of destiny or something else off topic, it doesn't change the O'Malley's and what they have in their pocket as Dodger people. And to sluff off fact and success as "like the Padres" is way off base, IMO. If this new Hero (sounds like a bullshit artist so far to me) Kasten can even half what the O'Malleys did, then we are the new fat cats. And if what they accomplished is "like the Padres", then let it come, big time. It'll take a long time to find out, too. And I repeat, the OMalleys wanted us, tried to buy us again, and were told to fuck off, basically. So, now they own the Padres. That's treason? When the court martial begins, I'll be the defense lawyer; get the best prosecutor you can. I'll wipe the floor with him.
a mid level team? no, the '87 Dodgers were a mid level team. after having to endure the Campanis/Nightline debacle, the '87 team finished 73-89 -- 4th in the NL West, a distant 17 games out of 1st place but in the subsequent offseason, new/interim GM Fred Claire's first offseason, all he did was acquire Kirk Gibson, the most sought after free agent acquire Mike Davis, who had averaged 22 HR the past 3 years acquire veteran shortstop Alfredo Griffin acquire set up man Jesse Orosco acquire closer Jay Howell Claire rebuilt a shit team into an instant playoff contender oh yeah, and let's not forget him trading Pedro Guerrero for John Tudor -- who, at the time, lead the NL in ERA. the '88 team didn't overachieve, they achieved and as far as the uribe/loney reference EVERY WS champion team has a couple of those guys on them
Add up all the money those guys made and it's probably less than one year of Kemp, which O'malley would not have signed for.....
I guess the facts and most successful years in Dodger history don't impress you, huh? OK... So which is better then...Fox? Frank? That's pretty much been it in modern history...I don't get your thinking at all. It's not what's in the books for all time that counts ? It's what they wouldn't do if they had the team now? All hypothetical?
The Dodgers are rich with tradition and history and now, thankfully for this current day and age, uber competitive resources.....